Break out the large backpack for Spirit travel!
#31
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I just found a pretty good bag, I think, for Spirit's personal item allowance. It is a duffle bag by American Trunk and Case, measures 16 by 11 by 9 inches, and is on sale at sears.com for $10. If you live close enough to a store to pick it up, it costs less than $11 with tax. If not, shipping is fairly cheap.
It does not seem very "expandable", so that 16 inches will stay 16 inches and not cause headaches should Spirit gate agents decide to measure.
I will be in Atlantic City for 4 days starting tomorrow, and I was able to fit in everything I wanted to bring pretty easily. Only small downside that I can see is that the front pouch is so shallow, it is fairly useless. Big enough to put medications and some papers, but not large enough for an electric razor, as an example.
It does not seem very "expandable", so that 16 inches will stay 16 inches and not cause headaches should Spirit gate agents decide to measure.
I will be in Atlantic City for 4 days starting tomorrow, and I was able to fit in everything I wanted to bring pretty easily. Only small downside that I can see is that the front pouch is so shallow, it is fairly useless. Big enough to put medications and some papers, but not large enough for an electric razor, as an example.
#32
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 251
As several of us posters suspected, one cannot get the supercheap fares at the airport in an effort to avoid the passenger facility charge. This comes as no surprise...
What does surprise me is that, according to the gate agent I spoke with, you can't even get the $9 fare club discount ($9) even if you pay with the Free Spirit Mastercard at the gate. I find this a bit perplexing? Maybe I need to ask another gate agent and see if I get the same answer...
iahphx... That bag I bought worked perfectly, though I agree with you that it would be nice to have something with the *exact* Spirit dimensions. But for around 10 bucks, it is hard to beat.
Putting it under the seat in-flight, I was able to put each foot around the bag fairly comfortably. It was much more comfortable on the flight home since I was in row 9, which had more legroom. The originating flight was not so comfortable since I was in row 25, which of course has virtually no legroom whatsoever. I couldn't really move my feet around at all; would hate to think what a tall person would have to go through, as I am only 5'6.
FreeSpriritGuru stated on here awhile back that if there was space available that one could put the personal item in the overhead bin, but the flight attendants on both flights that I asked said that is not the case. Maybe some internal changes regarding this issue since FreeSpiritGuru posted?
What does surprise me is that, according to the gate agent I spoke with, you can't even get the $9 fare club discount ($9) even if you pay with the Free Spirit Mastercard at the gate. I find this a bit perplexing? Maybe I need to ask another gate agent and see if I get the same answer...
iahphx... That bag I bought worked perfectly, though I agree with you that it would be nice to have something with the *exact* Spirit dimensions. But for around 10 bucks, it is hard to beat.
Putting it under the seat in-flight, I was able to put each foot around the bag fairly comfortably. It was much more comfortable on the flight home since I was in row 9, which had more legroom. The originating flight was not so comfortable since I was in row 25, which of course has virtually no legroom whatsoever. I couldn't really move my feet around at all; would hate to think what a tall person would have to go through, as I am only 5'6.
FreeSpriritGuru stated on here awhile back that if there was space available that one could put the personal item in the overhead bin, but the flight attendants on both flights that I asked said that is not the case. Maybe some internal changes regarding this issue since FreeSpiritGuru posted?
#33
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FreeSpriritGuru stated on here awhile back that if there was space available that one could put the personal item in the overhead bin, but the flight attendants on both flights that I asked said that is not the case. Maybe some internal changes regarding this issue since FreeSpiritGuru posted?
On my summer flights, some pax were confused about using the overhead bins for their personal item, but there was no policy preventing it.
I'll be amazed if the airline really wants to be jerky about this, but I guess we'll see. Personally, I'd put the item up anyway and wait for the f/a to tell me to remove it. I'm sure they'd love doing that.
#34
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 343
Found one for $16 that is 23.5 x 13.5 x 12.5 which looks to have squared off edges that should fit inside a sizer while providing maximum internal space. The length is still too long but the position of the straps for the carrying handle makes it look like I could somehow fold in and tape on the inside to bring the length down to 16 inches.
http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___63209
http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___63209
#35
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 251
Skink... My dad has a bag that he tried to somehow pin and/or staple to "lose" 2 inches on the length, but the material was just too thick to make it work. Hopefully you are able to finagle your bag to fit.
The process of trying to outwit Spirit at their own game with the baggage is really the fun of it all; actually taking off on your flight is anticlimactic...
FWIW, I am considering emailing Spirit to see what the exact policy is on stowing personal items in the overhead bin. For short flights, one can put up with the restricted feet movement with the personal item stored underneath the seat. But for long flights --such as my trip from Detroit to Las Vegas next month-- that would be a real chore to put up with.
The process of trying to outwit Spirit at their own game with the baggage is really the fun of it all; actually taking off on your flight is anticlimactic...
FWIW, I am considering emailing Spirit to see what the exact policy is on stowing personal items in the overhead bin. For short flights, one can put up with the restricted feet movement with the personal item stored underneath the seat. But for long flights --such as my trip from Detroit to Las Vegas next month-- that would be a real chore to put up with.
#36
Join Date: Oct 2008
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FreeSpriritGuru stated on here awhile back that if there was space available that one could put the personal item in the overhead bin, but the flight attendants on both flights that I asked said that is not the case. Maybe some internal changes regarding this issue since FreeSpiritGuru posted?
I've had pax come on the plane and flat out aske me if their personal item must go under the seat and I flat out tell them where ever you want to put it....as long as its not in a bulkhead, where there is no floor storage. Some people want it under the seat in front of them, even when I suggest they place it in an overhead bin, so they have more leg room. Trust me I fly on these planes all the time as a pax, and I want as much leg room as possible. I alrady dont fit in the seats as it is!!! LOL So I do sympathize with our pax, I just want them to be as comfortable as possible!
Any other questions that a Spirit F/A can possible answer just let me know!!
I have been here a long time and Ive seen sooooooo many changes. Not all of them we like but we get by. And yes I still love my job, and we appreciate that you chose Spirit and to serve you!
#37
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As far as other questions go, do you happen to know Spirit's on-time percentage? It seems somewhat low to me, but I don't think it's published. I haven't yet booked any connecting flights because I'm a little afraid I'd miss my connection. I assume I'm SOL if I do, right? I'm also a little afraid that my legs couldn't take much more than 2 hours on a Spirit flight, due to the legroom issue.
#38
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 519
I have had no issue just throwing my bag in the overhead. No one stopped me and no one knew whether or not I was entitled to a carry-on (I was).
My sister was annoyed recently because Spirit held their DLL-DTW flight because a large number of passengers were delayed in customs coming from CUN. I asked her how she would feel if she was left behind and she grumbled that Spirit did the right thing in waiting for the passengers!
My sister was annoyed recently because Spirit held their DLL-DTW flight because a large number of passengers were delayed in customs coming from CUN. I asked her how she would feel if she was left behind and she grumbled that Spirit did the right thing in waiting for the passengers!
#39
Join Date: Apr 2010
Posts: 251
NK_Flyer... Thank you for posting about your experience with the personal item policy; it is really appreciated.
As an aside, as a Free Spirit Mastercard holder, one could just board with the first group (priority boarding) and just lug the personal item in the bin since technically "everybody else" has paid for their carryon.
Thinking out loud, I really can not wait to hear what the new destinations will be. I have already asked friends/family when/where they might want to go depending on the destinations, so I can just buy tickets when I see them available.
As Axl Rose might say, I guess I "need a little patience"...
As an aside, as a Free Spirit Mastercard holder, one could just board with the first group (priority boarding) and just lug the personal item in the bin since technically "everybody else" has paid for their carryon.
Thinking out loud, I really can not wait to hear what the new destinations will be. I have already asked friends/family when/where they might want to go depending on the destinations, so I can just buy tickets when I see them available.
As Axl Rose might say, I guess I "need a little patience"...
#41
Join Date: Oct 2008
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OK Let me try to answer all you questions, let me know if I miss anything!!
**ON TIME PERFORMANCE**As far as on time performance goes, I have not seen anything published lately. Years back(before the whole ULCC concept was initiated) we used to get a daily "newsletter" type thing in the crew room that had on time performance, completion factor, load factor and all that good stuff.. Havent seen that in quite some time.
Howerver I do believe that our on time performance is pretty good... It did get bad a few years back when they started the 30 minutes turns but it has improved drastically since than and has gotten back on track to the way it used to be. And I believe it is about industry standard, if not better. But Again, that is just my experience lately. I really havent had a delayed flight in quite some time, any usually if its delayed its been less than 30 minutes, so not bad. I did have a cancelled flight a few weeks ago, but that is very rare around here.
**CONNECTIONS**I believe the minimum connect time for a "legal" connection is 30 minutes, but could vary depending on station, and of course wheter domestic or international. If you book a connecting flight, which many or our pax are connection in FLL, and you happen to miss your connecting flight.....you will be put on the next flight to your destination. At times CS may elect to put you on a different airline at the cost of Spirit Airlines. I have seen this happen many times , but usually when its to a destination that we do not serve daily(example, Aruba) but it does happen and they make this decision in the corporate office, not at the airport!!! For example I was working a flight one day coming out of DC and we took a mechanical delay and pax were missing connections.....they sent pax going to San Juan, PR down to Miami to take AA(this may have been do to lack of availability on NK flights, Im not sure why that decision was made...as I said this is made at corporate/dispatch)
**FLL-DTW waiting for Conx pax** I believe that flight is/was a thru flight, that may have something to do with it. Also factors that could have been involved in that decision are...lack of availibility on the later flight(if there was one that day) how long the delay would be, etc, if the aircraft is scheduled outbound at its destination(if the aircraft terminates for the day, they will probably wait...if theres is no flights with avail. on NK to put pax on)
**FREE SPIRIT MASTERCARD HOLDERS PREBOARDING ZONE 1** We never got a memo about it but when we check in for our flights we have "BRIEFING ROOMS" and they have a list of HOT TOPICS, it was listed on the HOT TOPICS that Free Spirit MasterCard holders are no longer preboarded This may have to do with the fact that some may have a carry on bad and didnt pre-pay for it Maybe they are allowing then to board in Zone 2??? I am not sure, as I am on the plane when this takes place and I dont recall hearing any announcements in the gate area while waiting for planes to come in...so I have no idea. If they are not allowing FSM holders to board in zone 1 or 2, I would go to the website and write comments to the company asking that you are at least allowed to board in zone 2 as a perk....BTW our onboard announcements still says a perk of being a FSM holder is pre-boarding Zone 1 on all of our flights...hmmm(and of course that is something I have no control over, as I am not a gate agent)
Maybe Skink has more info on this....did they allow FSM holders to board after zone 1?? Im curious now....
Anything else, please let me know...and as always thanks for flying with Spirit!!!!
**ON TIME PERFORMANCE**As far as on time performance goes, I have not seen anything published lately. Years back(before the whole ULCC concept was initiated) we used to get a daily "newsletter" type thing in the crew room that had on time performance, completion factor, load factor and all that good stuff.. Havent seen that in quite some time.
Howerver I do believe that our on time performance is pretty good... It did get bad a few years back when they started the 30 minutes turns but it has improved drastically since than and has gotten back on track to the way it used to be. And I believe it is about industry standard, if not better. But Again, that is just my experience lately. I really havent had a delayed flight in quite some time, any usually if its delayed its been less than 30 minutes, so not bad. I did have a cancelled flight a few weeks ago, but that is very rare around here.
**CONNECTIONS**I believe the minimum connect time for a "legal" connection is 30 minutes, but could vary depending on station, and of course wheter domestic or international. If you book a connecting flight, which many or our pax are connection in FLL, and you happen to miss your connecting flight.....you will be put on the next flight to your destination. At times CS may elect to put you on a different airline at the cost of Spirit Airlines. I have seen this happen many times , but usually when its to a destination that we do not serve daily(example, Aruba) but it does happen and they make this decision in the corporate office, not at the airport!!! For example I was working a flight one day coming out of DC and we took a mechanical delay and pax were missing connections.....they sent pax going to San Juan, PR down to Miami to take AA(this may have been do to lack of availability on NK flights, Im not sure why that decision was made...as I said this is made at corporate/dispatch)
**FLL-DTW waiting for Conx pax** I believe that flight is/was a thru flight, that may have something to do with it. Also factors that could have been involved in that decision are...lack of availibility on the later flight(if there was one that day) how long the delay would be, etc, if the aircraft is scheduled outbound at its destination(if the aircraft terminates for the day, they will probably wait...if theres is no flights with avail. on NK to put pax on)
**FREE SPIRIT MASTERCARD HOLDERS PREBOARDING ZONE 1** We never got a memo about it but when we check in for our flights we have "BRIEFING ROOMS" and they have a list of HOT TOPICS, it was listed on the HOT TOPICS that Free Spirit MasterCard holders are no longer preboarded This may have to do with the fact that some may have a carry on bad and didnt pre-pay for it Maybe they are allowing then to board in Zone 2??? I am not sure, as I am on the plane when this takes place and I dont recall hearing any announcements in the gate area while waiting for planes to come in...so I have no idea. If they are not allowing FSM holders to board in zone 1 or 2, I would go to the website and write comments to the company asking that you are at least allowed to board in zone 2 as a perk....BTW our onboard announcements still says a perk of being a FSM holder is pre-boarding Zone 1 on all of our flights...hmmm(and of course that is something I have no control over, as I am not a gate agent)
Maybe Skink has more info on this....did they allow FSM holders to board after zone 1?? Im curious now....
Anything else, please let me know...and as always thanks for flying with Spirit!!!!
#42
Join Date: Oct 2008
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Also NK has no control over what happens in immagration/customs. So sometimes inbound pax get sent to secondary screeing in immigration(or customs) this can be a very long process. So, I have been waiting for conx pax and the gate agent comes down to close out the flight and says we have....(example only) 4 pax in secondary immigration...we are not waiting for them! NK will have no idea how long this process will take, or even in CBP will let them in!! So they may make the decision to just send the flight out without them. There is always an NK agent in the Immigration and customs area, so they know when this happens
#44
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Spirit Airlines
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GOOD TO HEAR!! The memo we saw upon check-in only says that they are "NO LONGER PRE-BOARDED"
Let me know you alls travel plans, I sure hope to have some of you on board my flights real soon...it sure would be a pleasure!!!!
Let me know you alls travel plans, I sure hope to have some of you on board my flights real soon...it sure would be a pleasure!!!!
#45
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Thanks, NK Flyer. Very useful information.
Now we just need somebody in Yield Management to explain how/when the cheapo fares get loaded. It pays to search Spirit's fares often, because they load some really crazy stuff. And the best fares are usually not advertised in the emails.
Now we just need somebody in Yield Management to explain how/when the cheapo fares get loaded. It pays to search Spirit's fares often, because they load some really crazy stuff. And the best fares are usually not advertised in the emails.