Mutual gaslighting pact between pilots and flight attendants?
#17
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: TOL
Posts: 745
I'm no conspiracy theorist but I would not be shocked to learn that pilots err heavily on the side of caution on short flights and keep the F/As seated for everyone's safety. If the bumps don't show up, there really is little lost. However, the pre-landing cabin safety checks should be conducted unless it is truly unsafe to do so. The FAA would take a dim view of a crew skipping this safety responsibility unless it really was unsafe to be up and walking in the cabin. You should write in to let SWA know about this.
#18
Join Date: Nov 2021
Location: Somewhere
Programs: SkyMiles, AAdvantage, MileagePlus, Rapid Rewards
Posts: 120
I've noticed, especially in recent years, that WN FA's are becoming quite lazy/complacent. Used to get a full beverage service flying DAL-AUS. Now on some 1 hour hops I'm lucky if they come through the aisle at all.
#20
Join Date: Feb 2018
Programs: Hyatt Lifetime Globalist
Posts: 644
The fact is that the flight attendants union is vehemently anti-pax. One can make the effort to read what its leader has to say in any of its press releases. They hate your guts.
No doubt in my mind that cabin and flight crew would conspire to block cabin service. I've seen this myself on multiple (USA) airlines. Cabin crew in USA, especially short-haul are more times than not dreadful.
#21
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: SFO/SJC/OAK/STS
Programs: Alaska MVPG, Delta PM, AA EXP, Wannabe SkyWest 1K
Posts: 644
OMG!!! this happened to me and my partner and we were wondering what was up. Complete BS by WN. Flew SAN-SJC earlier this week and the woman I've been seeing said they pulled this "too much turbulence" thing even though she said it was a fairly smooth ride take off to touch down. I stayed in SAN and flew a couple hours later on AS/OO on the E175 only because I'm going for MVPG this year. I had two glasses of wine and a snack basket Lorna Doone cookie. Not a bump after we made the right turn after takeoff leaving the runway heading and no excuses. We're going to drain the points out of her account, but done with WN, same garbage attitude and service you get on UA mainline.
2022 WN must have Herb K turning in his grave.
2022 WN must have Herb K turning in his grave.
#22
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: St. Louis, MO
Programs: AA EXP, 1MM; HH Gold; IHG Platinum
Posts: 148
#24
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: St. Louis, MO
Programs: AA EXP, 1MM; HH Gold; IHG Platinum
Posts: 148
My point was don't blame the pilots and FAs when the FAs are following WN's service standards. If you want to blame someone, blame WN for setting those standards. Not to mention the flight probably isn't provisioned with anything more than water for a full load of pax (and that's only intended for extended onboard delays).