[Targeted] Free changes due to rescheduling; move up to + or - 14 days, twice!
Feb 19, 2022, 5:52 am
#1009
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: PIT, BWI, or IPT
Programs: Dividend Miles, WorldPerks
Posts: 1,302
Unfortunately there is literally no better alternative for any of my routes. For example, PIT-SEA connections are all either 6:30am departure (3:30am west coast) or 12:30am arrival (3:30am east coast). For once, I am rather unhappy with the schedule changes. Nearly as bad as it was in June 2020.
Feb 19, 2022, 7:24 am
#1010
Join Date: May 2003
Location: VA
Programs: Marriott: LTP
Posts: 387
original flights (May 31st)
IAD-DEN 1:45pm-3:30pm
DEN-BUR 5:20pm-6:45pm
now
IAD-DEN 6:55am-8:55am
DEN-BUR 2:30pm-3:55pm
Good grief! Way too early for me! Looooong layover! It's Time to pick different flights (maybe different airports)...
Are they paring down flights?
IAD-DEN 1:45pm-3:30pm
DEN-BUR 5:20pm-6:45pm
now
IAD-DEN 6:55am-8:55am
DEN-BUR 2:30pm-3:55pm
Good grief! Way too early for me! Looooong layover! It's Time to pick different flights (maybe different airports)...
Are they paring down flights?
Feb 19, 2022, 9:42 am
#1011
Join Date: Jun 2015
Location: DAY
Programs: Rapid Rewards, Skymiles, Hilton HHonors, SPG/Marriott Rewards
Posts: 4,949
Yes they are. Don’t know exactly where you live, but the is a BWI-BUR flight that is pretty similar to your original flights.
Feb 19, 2022, 8:53 pm
#1012
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Pittsburgh
Programs: Whoever Has the Best Bonus
Posts: 5,183
Unfortunately there is literally no better alternative for any of my routes. For example, PIT-SEA connections are all either 6:30am departure (3:30am west coast) or 12:30am arrival (3:30am east coast). For once, I am rather unhappy with the schedule changes. Nearly as bad as it was in June 2020.
Feb 21, 2022, 10:02 am
#1013
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 3,638
Due to the recent rounds of cut backs, it is becoming almost impossible to find availability for new bookings, in the upcoming months. With all of the customers who had to be reaccommodated and moved to remaining flights, I wonder how much new business Southwest is losing. If you can find availability, very often there only will be a couple of seats left, either in AT or BS.
What projections were used for these drastic cuts? Are staffing issues at the crux of the flight reductions?
What projections were used for these drastic cuts? Are staffing issues at the crux of the flight reductions?
Feb 21, 2022, 12:21 pm
#1014
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: The World!!!
Programs: Some of them not all ...
Posts: 1,532
Feb 21, 2022, 12:47 pm
#1015
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: LAX/SMF/PDX/HNL
Programs: Hilton-lifetime diamond, Southwest A+, companion pass
Posts: 1,748
Just imagine the pricing power WN will have on those last seats. If their route structure and frequency is down and the demand is there, they will look to return some capacity later, if they do happen to have airplanes available. As a reminder, the 737-7 MAX isn't yet certified. So less airplanes available for them. In the end, all those last seats will be sold either on Business Select or Anytime instead of Want to Get Away
Feb 21, 2022, 1:13 pm
#1016
Moderator: Southwest Airlines, Capital One
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: California
Programs: WN Companion Pass, A-list preferred, Hyatt Globalist; United Club Lietime (sic) Member
Posts: 21,624
The high fares will make travelers like me search for alternative service. I have found first class non-stop seats on competing airlines to be only 20% more, in some cases, than Southwest fares for flights with a connection. Do your research. Business and FC fares are often reasonable now since business travel is still in the doldrums.
Feb 21, 2022, 3:08 pm
#1017
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: California
Posts: 1,129
My business travel has been cut by 75%. I eventually cancelled all of my leisure trips other than visiting relatives. I had to cancel my Hawaii trip.
If another airline is willing to lose money hand over fist with a better schedule and better seats, I'll buy up which I've done with AA. The demand is not there for both business and leisure.
I'm also seeing disturbing signs of a general economic slowdown in the works over the past few weeks with regards to less credit available, lower pricing, and the willingness for vendors to pursue deals they would have walked away from two months ago.
If another airline is willing to lose money hand over fist with a better schedule and better seats, I'll buy up which I've done with AA. The demand is not there for both business and leisure.
I'm also seeing disturbing signs of a general economic slowdown in the works over the past few weeks with regards to less credit available, lower pricing, and the willingness for vendors to pursue deals they would have walked away from two months ago.
Feb 21, 2022, 3:15 pm
#1018
Moderator: Southwest Airlines, Capital One
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: California
Programs: WN Companion Pass, A-list preferred, Hyatt Globalist; United Club Lietime (sic) Member
Posts: 21,624
Feb 21, 2022, 5:11 pm
#1019
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: The World!!!
Programs: Some of them not all ...
Posts: 1,532
The high fares will make travelers like me search for alternative service. I have found first class non-stop seats on competing airlines to be only 20% more, in some cases, than Southwest fares for flights with a connection. Do your research. Business and FC fares are often reasonable now since business travel is still in the doldrums.
Now that the UK and several other countries ended all mask and Covid Tests, it is a matter of time for the USA to end mask mandates too. If it is leisure Pent Up demand or Business coming back slowly, it looks like they are balancing capacity quite well.
Feb 21, 2022, 5:54 pm
#1020
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Nashville -Past DL Plat, FO, WN-CP, various hotel programs
Programs: DL-MM, AA, SW w/companion,HiltonDiamond, Hyatt PLat, IHF Plat, Miles and Points Seeker
Posts: 11,073
For my flight to Vegas in early March from BNA, most tickets are now over $700 ONE WAY. Holy crap. And those are Wed/Thur flights.