Southwest Pilots sue Boeing.
Oct 7, 2019, 8:43 pm
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Oct 8, 2019, 12:06 am
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Southwest stated that they would share monies received from Boeing due to the grounding with their employees, but the pilots apparently want more and/or direct payment. I'm actually very surprised that Boeing allowed this to get out of negotiations.
Oct 8, 2019, 4:09 am
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I'm betting this will be dismissed for lack of standing to sue. WN pilots and Boeing have no contractual relationship/responsibility to each other. The relationship/responsibility is with WN itself. If there was any case to be made at all, it would be against WN. WN could then go against Boeing in their own right to recoup any payout.
Oct 8, 2019, 12:40 pm
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I'm betting this will be dismissed for lack of standing to sue. WN pilots and Boeing have no contractual relationship/responsibility to each other. The relationship/responsibility is with WN itself. If there was any case to be made at all, it would be against WN. WN could then go against Boeing in their own right to recoup any payout.
Look up thirty party suits.
https://www.justia.com/injury/neglig...rty-liability/
This article relates to Workers Compensation, but the principal is the same. The Negligence of a third party caused damage (loss of income) to the pilots.
Oct 9, 2019, 6:52 am
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I doubt it. Boeing's negligence caused Southwest's pilots to lose money. Southwest may even be paying pilots under the Union Contract not to fly. Some pilots may have made more money if the planes weren't grounded.
Look up thirty party suits.
https://www.justia.com/injury/neglig...rty-liability/
This article relates to Workers Compensation, but the principal is the same. The Negligence of a third party caused damage (loss of income) to the pilots.
Look up thirty party suits.
https://www.justia.com/injury/neglig...rty-liability/
This article relates to Workers Compensation, but the principal is the same. The Negligence of a third party caused damage (loss of income) to the pilots.
Oct 9, 2019, 10:20 am
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I think they are going to do some employee sharing thing and be rather blanket across the masses - maybe. Nothing but headaches coming out of that.
Oct 9, 2019, 10:48 am
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It doesn't apply in this case. If a WN pilot died while flying a Boeing plane, then Boeing could be liable as a third party. There's no direct connection to Boeing in this case as there is in the example. Simply cause a business decided to make a business decision doesnt mean you can sue any companies that caused them to make that decision.
If Hertz determines Ford lied about its cars' design safety, can't an laid off employee sue Ford? Or an injured renter?
A negligent or reckless third party’s actions or omissions is not unplowed ground.
Oct 9, 2019, 10:53 am
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Have there been actual layoffs? I think we would have heard something.
Lawyers can make an argument out of anything when smelling money and blaming others with deep pockets, no matter how faint the scent. Someone's negligence for failing to predict the action is to blame.
When the economy goes south, travel demand lessens and pilots are laid off, do you sue the Company for not retraining pilots for something they still need or the Federal Government for not preventing the recession?
Absurd on all counts.
Lawyers can make an argument out of anything when smelling money and blaming others with deep pockets, no matter how faint the scent. Someone's negligence for failing to predict the action is to blame.
When the economy goes south, travel demand lessens and pilots are laid off, do you sue the Company for not retraining pilots for something they still need or the Federal Government for not preventing the recession?
Absurd on all counts.
Oct 9, 2019, 11:10 am
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Maybe.
The union entered into a collective bargaining agreement to include the Max. SWAPA says it would not have entered into the CBA and/or agreed to its specific terms had it known that Boeing’s representations were false. Self-certifying an airplane is - arguably - negligent.
The union entered into a collective bargaining agreement to include the Max. SWAPA says it would not have entered into the CBA and/or agreed to its specific terms had it known that Boeing’s representations were false. Self-certifying an airplane is - arguably - negligent.
Nov 7, 2019, 9:16 am
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Now the FA union is thinking of doing the same:
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/06/sout...ng-boeing.html
https://www.cnbc.com/2019/11/06/sout...ng-boeing.html