WN 1172 - BWI-PWM - Jul 11
Jul 11, 2019, 8:06 am
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WN 1172 - BWI-PWM - Jul 11
Anyone know what's going on with this flight? I have family that's supposed to get on this plane as WN1173 (PWM-BWI) at 10:45AM ET. WN1172 just departed the gate at 10:01AM ET, 86 minutes late. From across the country, it doesn't look like weather or airport delays.
If my family gets delayed enough out of PWM that they miss their connection in BWI (WN2525 to SAN), should they be asking for compensation for a mechanical delay?
If my family gets delayed enough out of PWM that they miss their connection in BWI (WN2525 to SAN), should they be asking for compensation for a mechanical delay?
Jul 11, 2019, 8:36 am
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Anyone know what's going on with this flight? I have family that's supposed to get on this plane as WN1173 (PWM-BWI) at 10:45AM ET. WN1172 just departed the gate at 10:01AM ET, 86 minutes late. From across the country, it doesn't look like weather or airport delays.
If my family gets delayed enough out of PWM that they miss their connection in BWI (WN2525 to SAN), should they be asking for compensation for a mechanical delay?
If my family gets delayed enough out of PWM that they miss their connection in BWI (WN2525 to SAN), should they be asking for compensation for a mechanical delay?
Jul 11, 2019, 8:46 am
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That aircraft, N219WN, did not land at BWI from MCI until 0907 (scheduled 0930) and 1172 was scheduled to depart BWI for PWM at 0835 so it was not going to leave on time no matter what. Sounds like an aircraft scheduling issue, driven by what who knows......
Jul 11, 2019, 8:51 am
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Not sure about this particular flight, but the Northeast is a mess right now. NYC is under a weather waiver on several airline and Boston has weather related ground delays. Haven't seen anything on Portland, but who knows. For what its worth, I'm BWI based and we're expecting major storms this afternoon. Afternoon flights could definitely see some delays today.
At PWM bag check, the ticket agent proactively rerouted their BWI-SAN leg as BWI-SJC-SAN. They’ll get here four hours later. It’s a yucky routing and they lost their nice boarding position from EBCI, but life goes on.
Jul 11, 2019, 8:53 am
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Jul 11, 2019, 8:54 am
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5 later BWI-SAN flights have connections. They'd get in between 6:10-8:55 pm PDT. I doubt Southwest will compensate.
Jul 11, 2019, 8:59 am
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Jul 11, 2019, 8:59 am
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Not sure why the entire issue of "comepensation for mechanical" arises when there is not one shred of information about a mechanical delay. Always better to focus on the reroute which is an immediate need and to worry about what one can get out of an unfortunate situation later.
WN has delayed the 10:45 departure from PWM to 12:05 and that is now scheduled to arrive BWI at 13:40. The onwards flight to SAN is delayed, but not currently by enough for the passengers to make it.
The only other option (with space) is a 14:45 departure from BWI with a plane change at SJC, arriving into SAN at 19:40. WN has cancelled the two later PWM-BWI services, so later options won't work. Other BWI-SAN options may wind up working because the mess means that others will misconnect and that creates space.
My advice is for the passengers to head to the SAN departure gate as soon as they arrive. Even if the flight is closed. Delays happen at the last second and if you show up, one never knows. Presuming that this fails, ask to be rebooked to the 14:45 and hope that works. Unfortunately, WN does not have interline agreements with other carriers, so the option becomes overnighting at BWI and hoping for seats tomorrow or cancelling for a refund and looking for options on other carriers where the refund + insurance will make the passengers whole or close to it.
WN has delayed the 10:45 departure from PWM to 12:05 and that is now scheduled to arrive BWI at 13:40. The onwards flight to SAN is delayed, but not currently by enough for the passengers to make it.
The only other option (with space) is a 14:45 departure from BWI with a plane change at SJC, arriving into SAN at 19:40. WN has cancelled the two later PWM-BWI services, so later options won't work. Other BWI-SAN options may wind up working because the mess means that others will misconnect and that creates space.
My advice is for the passengers to head to the SAN departure gate as soon as they arrive. Even if the flight is closed. Delays happen at the last second and if you show up, one never knows. Presuming that this fails, ask to be rebooked to the 14:45 and hope that works. Unfortunately, WN does not have interline agreements with other carriers, so the option becomes overnighting at BWI and hoping for seats tomorrow or cancelling for a refund and looking for options on other carriers where the refund + insurance will make the passengers whole or close to it.
Jul 11, 2019, 9:07 am
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The only other option (with space) is a 14:45 departure from BWI with a plane change at SJC, arriving into SAN at 19:40. WN has cancelled the two later PWM-BWI services, so later options won't work. Other BWI-SAN options may wind up working because the mess means that others will misconnect and that creates space.
Jul 11, 2019, 9:18 am
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Not sure why the entire issue of "comepensation for mechanical" arises when there is not one shred of information about a mechanical delay. Always better to focus on the reroute which is an immediate need and to worry about what one can get out of an unfortunate situation later.
WN has delayed the 10:45 departure from PWM to 12:05 and that is now scheduled to arrive BWI at 13:40. The onwards flight to SAN is delayed, but not currently by enough for the passengers to make it.
The only other option (with space) is a 14:45 departure from BWI with a plane change at SJC, arriving into SAN at 19:40. WN has cancelled the two later PWM-BWI services, so later options won't work. Other BWI-SAN options may wind up working because the mess means that others will misconnect and that creates space.
My advice is for the passengers to head to the SAN departure gate as soon as they arrive. Even if the flight is closed. Delays happen at the last second and if you show up, one never knows. Presuming that this fails, ask to be rebooked to the 14:45 and hope that works. Unfortunately, WN does not have interline agreements with other carriers, so the option becomes overnighting at BWI and hoping for seats tomorrow or cancelling for a refund and looking for options on other carriers where the refund + insurance will make the passengers whole or close to it.
The agent at bag check proactively rerouted them. We’ll see them much later tonight.
Jul 11, 2019, 11:53 am
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Jul 11, 2019, 1:34 pm
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They had plenty of time to make the BWI-SJC-SAN flight (2434), which is now sitting on the tarmac for a wx hold.
Jul 11, 2019, 1:37 pm
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They did end up paying extra for A1-15 boarding numbers for BWI-SJC-SAN because the effectiveness of their EBCI was lost on the reroute. They’re not seasoned travelers, and sitting together was important to them.
I doubt there’s any chance of getting the EBCI back, but I may compose a nice email to customer care and ask.
I doubt there’s any chance of getting the EBCI back, but I may compose a nice email to customer care and ask.
Jul 11, 2019, 1:54 pm
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Hmm, the flight trackers show that that 1173 arrived at 1:46 and 2525 took off at 2:52. Would've thought they could make that, but don't know when WN2525 actually left the gate.
Last edited by spartan3186; Jul 11, 2019 at 1:55 pm Reason: Clarity