Why will you fly Southwest in 2017?
#47
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Danville, CA, USA;
Programs: UA 1MM, WN CP, Marriott LT Plat, Hilton Gold, IC Plat
Posts: 15,722
Did not fly WN in 2016 (and very few times over past few years) but I have some expiring TTF so I will probably take at least 1 flight in 2017.
Personally I like WN and prefer OAK and BUR but but fares have not been at all competitive where I have UA/AS/VX options @SFO and WN premium is too steep to justify even with "no change fees." In fact UA is even cheaper because as an elite I get free checked bags and free E+, whereas WN charges me a non-ref fee for EBCI.
Part of the problem is that WN's software/revenue mgmt. team has completely eliminated discounts on my preferred travel days (FR/SU/MO) and I'm not going to waste valuable vacation days and time just to save a few $$.
For my more lucrative business trips, the on-board product would need to improve dramatically to capture my midcon or transcon trips, e.g. OAK-HOU. Like better seats, paid food (think VX) and more frequent nonstops.
Personally I like WN and prefer OAK and BUR but but fares have not been at all competitive where I have UA/AS/VX options @SFO and WN premium is too steep to justify even with "no change fees." In fact UA is even cheaper because as an elite I get free checked bags and free E+, whereas WN charges me a non-ref fee for EBCI.
Part of the problem is that WN's software/revenue mgmt. team has completely eliminated discounts on my preferred travel days (FR/SU/MO) and I'm not going to waste valuable vacation days and time just to save a few $$.
For my more lucrative business trips, the on-board product would need to improve dramatically to capture my midcon or transcon trips, e.g. OAK-HOU. Like better seats, paid food (think VX) and more frequent nonstops.
#48
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: SFO
Posts: 3,881
#49
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: SFO
Programs: UA Platinum, AF, Chase, Hyatt Explorist
Posts: 1,089
I am interested to try this. I guess it's cool now that you can get B6 miles for JetSuiteX flights, but they're still typically more than double the cheapest BUR/LAX-OAK/SFO flights, and the schedules are not ideal — only 2x a day on weekdays, timed for day commuters, and no flights on Saturdays.
Compare that to WN's offering on BUR-OAK, and it's much more compelling. Cheap fares, plenty of flights, and easy in, easy out on both ends of the itinerary. Not bad for an hour's bus ride in the sky.
Compare that to WN's offering on BUR-OAK, and it's much more compelling. Cheap fares, plenty of flights, and easy in, easy out on both ends of the itinerary. Not bad for an hour's bus ride in the sky.
#50
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: LAX/FAO
Posts: 355
Ohh... wish I'd thought of this before all six of us booked on WN last week. And I know a JetSuiteX pilot!
Their schedule doesn't go out to June yet, but I looked at a weekend in April and the times would have worked perfectly and it cost less than our WN flight ($178 vs. $233 on WN). Next time!
How's the rental car situation in CCR?
Their schedule doesn't go out to June yet, but I looked at a weekend in April and the times would have worked perfectly and it cost less than our WN flight ($178 vs. $233 on WN). Next time!
How's the rental car situation in CCR?
#51
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: SFO
Posts: 3,881
Ohh... wish I'd thought of this before all six of us booked on WN last week. And I know a JetSuiteX pilot!
Their schedule doesn't go out to June yet, but I looked at a weekend in April and the times would have worked perfectly and it cost less than our WN flight ($178 vs. $233 on WN). Next time!
How's the rental car situation in CCR?
Their schedule doesn't go out to June yet, but I looked at a weekend in April and the times would have worked perfectly and it cost less than our WN flight ($178 vs. $233 on WN). Next time!
How's the rental car situation in CCR?
(CCR) Concord Buchanan Field Airport
JSX Terminal - 181 John Glenn Drive, Concord, CA 94520
CAR RENTAL INFORMATION
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JSX Terminal - 181 John Glenn Drive, Concord, CA 94520
CAR RENTAL INFORMATION
GoRentals cars are available on arrival at Concord - JSX Terminal. Please call GoRentals at (949) 449-2833 or email [email protected] to book your car.
#52
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: LAX/FAO
Posts: 355
#53
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: SFO
Posts: 3,881
Also, depending your arrival and departure times, traffic can be awful from/to OAK (assuming I-80 passing Berkeley).
#55
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Let me check my Logbook
Programs: Southwest Rapid Rewards; AAdvantage; Alaska Mileage Plan; Wyndham Rewards; Choice Hotels
Posts: 2,350
I've done it twice already. I like being able to check two bags free and I also like it that there are no "close in" fees for award tickets.
#56
Moderator: Southwest Airlines, Capital One
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: California
Programs: WN Companion Pass, A-list preferred, Hyatt Globalist; United Club Lietime (sic) Member
Posts: 21,624
Also Southwest has the best schedule and highest frequency for my routine flying. Companion Pass is the best perk in the industry these days.
#60
Suspended
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 1,808
Routing and routing only. Otherwise I avoid WN like I avoid Wal-Mart and McDonalds. If I DO fly them it's because it goes to a specific location..for example, HOU instead of IAD for my yearly trip to Galveston, or it's a direct flight under 1 hour.