Air rage incident aboard WN flight
Oct 19, 2015, 3:35 pm
#16
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The facts reported so far don't make much sense. How does someone choke the person sitting in the seat in front of them? Even reclined... how would someone have the capability to put their hands around the other person's throat from behind?
Did the male pax do something like grab the female pax's scarf or other clothing, which amounted to "choking?"
Did the male pax do something like grab the female pax's scarf or other clothing, which amounted to "choking?"
Oct 19, 2015, 4:14 pm
#17
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Oct 19, 2015, 4:38 pm
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This is what happens when you get stuck in "C" group. By the time you get on the plane, have no overhead space, go to and fro up and down to try and find a sliver of personal space, then probably get stuck in the middle....well, I could go on and on. If Southworst continues to make the seating any tighter, maybe we will see more "air rage" incidents.
Make the people happy again. Can 'ya bring back Airtran biz class? I'd like at least 4 of these seats in the front of every WN plane, like Spirited.
Make the people happy again. Can 'ya bring back Airtran biz class? I'd like at least 4 of these seats in the front of every WN plane, like Spirited.
Oct 19, 2015, 4:55 pm
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I wouldn't be surprised if the number of incidents on Southwest per hours flown is no higher than other carriers, but there's just a bias in national reporting of WN passenger violence issues, kind of like how every United flight these days that strands passengers at a remote Canadian air base will at least make cable news.
Oct 19, 2015, 5:21 pm
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It's been a while since I flew WN, but even then, I don't recall being able to recline the seats very much. The days are long gone (on US carriers, anyway) where coach seats recline so far you are looking down at the top of someone's head.
Very odd story.
Very odd story.
Oct 19, 2015, 5:52 pm
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I think we're not getting the full story here.
The video linked in post 8 shows a clearly hysterical woman who is sobbing about having to stay on the plane all night. It also says the man was calm throughout, did not need to be restrained, and was not taken into custody upon landing. Finally, it shows the flight attendants saying that they saw nothing inappropriate.
As others have pointed out, it's difficult/impossible for someone to be strangled by the passenger seated behind them, especially without anyone noticing.
So we have a hysterical woman, accusing a calm man of carrying out an almost impossible action and no evidence that anyone saw it. I wouldn't necessarily take her story at face value.
The video linked in post 8 shows a clearly hysterical woman who is sobbing about having to stay on the plane all night. It also says the man was calm throughout, did not need to be restrained, and was not taken into custody upon landing. Finally, it shows the flight attendants saying that they saw nothing inappropriate.
As others have pointed out, it's difficult/impossible for someone to be strangled by the passenger seated behind them, especially without anyone noticing.
So we have a hysterical woman, accusing a calm man of carrying out an almost impossible action and no evidence that anyone saw it. I wouldn't necessarily take her story at face value.
Last edited by Mountain Explorer; Oct 19, 2015 at 5:58 pm
Oct 19, 2015, 5:58 pm
#22
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To me it seems rather easy to do regardless of the circumstances. Not saying that's what happened in reality, though.
Last edited by texashoser; Oct 19, 2015 at 6:05 pm
Oct 19, 2015, 6:07 pm
#23
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I think we're not getting the full story here.
The video linked in post 8 shows a clearly hysterical woman who is sobbing about having to stay on the plane all night. It also says the man was calm throughout, did not need to be restrained, and was not taken into custody upon landing. Finally, it shows the flight attendants saying that they saw nothing inappropriate.
As others have pointed out, it's difficult/impossible for someone to be strangled by the passenger seated behind them, especially without anyone noticing.
So we have a hysterical woman, accusing a calm man of carrying out an almost impossible action and no evidence that anyone saw it. I wouldn't necessarily take her story at face value.
The video linked in post 8 shows a clearly hysterical woman who is sobbing about having to stay on the plane all night. It also says the man was calm throughout, did not need to be restrained, and was not taken into custody upon landing. Finally, it shows the flight attendants saying that they saw nothing inappropriate.
As others have pointed out, it's difficult/impossible for someone to be strangled by the passenger seated behind them, especially without anyone noticing.
So we have a hysterical woman, accusing a calm man of carrying out an almost impossible action and no evidence that anyone saw it. I wouldn't necessarily take her story at face value.
Oct 19, 2015, 6:35 pm
#25
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What's so hard about standing up, reaching over the seat in front of you, putting your hands around someone's neck, and pulling up and backwards? The taller the person in the seat in front, the easier.
But other passengers would be certain to notice it.
Next time you fly, let me know, and I'll demonstrate on you. I'll promise to let go once you agree with me. ;-) Seriously, just kidding.
But other passengers would be certain to notice it.
Next time you fly, let me know, and I'll demonstrate on you. I'll promise to let go once you agree with me. ;-) Seriously, just kidding.
Oct 19, 2015, 6:41 pm
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This is what happens when you get stuck in "C" group. By the time you get on the plane, have no overhead space, go to and fro up and down to try and find a sliver of personal space, then probably get stuck in the middle....well, I could go on and on. If Southworst continues to make the seating any tighter, maybe we will see more "air rage" incidents.
Make the people happy again. Can 'ya bring back Airtran biz class? I'd like at least 4 of these seats in the front of every WN plane, like Spirited.
Make the people happy again. Can 'ya bring back Airtran biz class? I'd like at least 4 of these seats in the front of every WN plane, like Spirited.
