Is EBCI a Scam?
#1
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Is EBCI a Scam?
I have taken 6 roundtrip flights (so 12 flights) on Southwest BUR-SJC (Thursday evening last flight, Monday morning 2nd flight of morning) in the past 6 months and every flight I have purchased EBCI and get somewhere A45 to B20. I book my flights 2-3 months in advance.
One time I got so excited because I got A28 on a Tuesday evening... but it turns out the flight only went up to A40!!!!
Is EBCI just an elaborate scam? It almost seems like if I just check-in 24 hours beforehand I'd get a better boarding position. Anybody else have experience with EBCI on the SJC-BUR/BUR-SJC route?
[I know it's wishful thinking but I wish Virgin flew SJC-BUR so I could avoid this whole process.]
One time I got so excited because I got A28 on a Tuesday evening... but it turns out the flight only went up to A40!!!!
Is EBCI just an elaborate scam? It almost seems like if I just check-in 24 hours beforehand I'd get a better boarding position. Anybody else have experience with EBCI on the SJC-BUR/BUR-SJC route?
[I know it's wishful thinking but I wish Virgin flew SJC-BUR so I could avoid this whole process.]
#4
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I find BS fares to be even more so. In fact, BS fares are just that - BS. Why pay a massive premium for a drink coupon? Sure you board first (or first-ish, depending how much BS Southwest is shoveling on that flight) but is it really worth so much money? Rarely.
We have an all-business policy at work, so when I was going from RDU to LAS, Southwest seemed to have the only direct flight. Work booked me in "Business Select" and I asked them to modify the policy to excluse Southwest Business after that flight.
We have an all-business policy at work, so when I was going from RDU to LAS, Southwest seemed to have the only direct flight. Work booked me in "Business Select" and I asked them to modify the policy to excluse Southwest Business after that flight.
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#5
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I find BS fares to be even more so. In fact, BS fares are just that - BS. Why pay a massive premium for a drink coupon? Sure you board first (or first-ish, depending how much BS Southwest is shoveling on that flight) but is it really worth so much money? Rarely.
We have an all-business policy at work, so when I was going from RDU to LAS, Southwest seemed to have the only direct flight. Work booked me in "Business Select" and I asked them to modify the policy to excluse Southwest Business after that flight.
We have an all-business policy at work, so when I was going from RDU to LAS, Southwest seemed to have the only direct flight. Work booked me in "Business Select" and I asked them to modify the policy to excluse Southwest Business after that flight.
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It depends. Do you like waking up at 7am on Sunday to check in for that Monday morning flight? Do you always remember to check in right at T24? BUR to the Bay area is a commuter heavy route. Even as an A+ I've received an A48 on the 7am BUR-OAK. Forget to check in until later in the day and you'll get a C.
If everyone on your flight purchases it and you don't, you'll still get a C checking in at T24...
If everyone on your flight purchases it and you don't, you'll still get a C checking in at T24...
#7
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WN hiked EBCI price as they introduced gate sales, worsening odds for a bigger ante. Add in untold pre-boards and throughs to the pot, and they're not even letting you cut the deck.
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#9
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I've done it before on free tickets on long hauls and it was worth it.
I figured I was on a free ticket anyway and a couple times was connecting at MDW and with the time change the people that were originating there or connecting from cities outside the EST time zone would have an hour advantage over me for checking in for the flight, and not to mention I usually carry on so I want to board for bin space by my seat.
If it was a short 60 to 90 minute flight and I knew I would have access to my phone or computer at around t-24 I wouldn't deal with it.
Something to keep in mind is if your flight has an irops situation the EBCI doesn't carry over to your rebooked flight and I have had that happen before. Southwest won't proactively give you the refund, but if you call they will credit it back with no problem.
I figured I was on a free ticket anyway and a couple times was connecting at MDW and with the time change the people that were originating there or connecting from cities outside the EST time zone would have an hour advantage over me for checking in for the flight, and not to mention I usually carry on so I want to board for bin space by my seat.
If it was a short 60 to 90 minute flight and I knew I would have access to my phone or computer at around t-24 I wouldn't deal with it.
Something to keep in mind is if your flight has an irops situation the EBCI doesn't carry over to your rebooked flight and I have had that happen before. Southwest won't proactively give you the refund, but if you call they will credit it back with no problem.
#10
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I just bought EBCI for an MSP-DEN-PDX flight on Dec. 23, and I've never purchased EBCI before. I know that at T-24 I am going to be either milling around Lambeau Field or driving back to MSP, and owning no smartphone I wouldn't be able to check-in until hours later after everybody and their brother has already checked-in. Throw in a short connection in DEN, I'll want to be as close to the front in the first plane (in a non-middle seat) as possible. So I wouldn't call it a scam. It does what it does.
#11
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I just bought EBCI for an MSP-DEN-PDX flight on Dec. 23, and I've never purchased EBCI before. I know that at T-24 I am going to be either milling around Lambeau Field or driving back to MSP, and owning no smartphone I wouldn't be able to check-in until hours later after everybody and their brother has already checked-in. Throw in a short connection in DEN, I'll want to be as close to the front in the first plane (in a non-middle seat) as possible. So I wouldn't call it a scam. It does what it does.
EBCI is a colonic. You can't see what's happening, only assured you'll soon be sitting pretty.
Months from now.
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Now that Delta is offering a traveller's pack where you can pay a fee of a little over $100 and get preferred seating for free and priority boarding for up to 8 people on your ticket through Early January, I am surprised Southwest isn't offering something similar.
Pay $100 and you get EBCI through early January on all your flights for up to 8 people.
If Southwest did this at least their most loyal customers wouldn't be screwed over the way Delta's are.
Pay $100 and you get EBCI through early January on all your flights for up to 8 people.
If Southwest did this at least their most loyal customers wouldn't be screwed over the way Delta's are.
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I find BS fares to be even more so. In fact, BS fares are just that - BS. Why pay a massive premium for a drink coupon? Sure you board first (or first-ish, depending how much BS Southwest is shoveling on that flight) but is it really worth so much money? Rarely.
We have an all-business policy at work, so when I was going from RDU to LAS, Southwest seemed to have the only direct flight. Work booked me in "Business Select" and I asked them to modify the policy to excluse Southwest Business after that flight.
We have an all-business policy at work, so when I was going from RDU to LAS, Southwest seemed to have the only direct flight. Work booked me in "Business Select" and I asked them to modify the policy to excluse Southwest Business after that flight.
The extra points almost paid for the fare difference.
I prefer being able to plan ahead and buy the lowest WGA fare, but when that is not possible, I think BS is a worthy upgrade over AT.
#15
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Now that Delta is offering a traveller's pack where you can pay a fee of a little over $100 and get preferred seating for free and priority boarding for up to 8 people on your ticket through Early January, I am surprised Southwest isn't offering something similar.
Pay $100 and you get EBCI through early January on all your flights for up to 8 people.
If Southwest did this at least their most loyal customers wouldn't be screwed over the way Delta's are.
Pay $100 and you get EBCI through early January on all your flights for up to 8 people.
If Southwest did this at least their most loyal customers wouldn't be screwed over the way Delta's are.
Offering $100 unlimited EBCI for up to eight people over the holidays? Not seeing it.