Nose gear collapse on landing at LGA
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Here is the quote from the NTSB release:
"SWA 345 proceeded on the approach when at a point below 400 feet, there was an exchange of control of the airplane and the captain became the flying pilot and made the landing."
From this we do not know at what altitude the captain became the flying pilot, nor do we know who initiated the change in control. To me it is clear that they should have executed a missed approach and gone around. I have been through several at LaGarbage usually due to the preceding aircraft not clearing the active.
"SWA 345 proceeded on the approach when at a point below 400 feet, there was an exchange of control of the airplane and the captain became the flying pilot and made the landing."
From this we do not know at what altitude the captain became the flying pilot, nor do we know who initiated the change in control. To me it is clear that they should have executed a missed approach and gone around. I have been through several at LaGarbage usually due to the preceding aircraft not clearing the active.
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BTW, anyone know if the nose wheel did really collapse or was it driven so hard into the wheel bay intact, rendering it useless?
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The plane has been declared "totaled."
http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2...ng-again.html/
Had a $15.5M depreciated value.
http://aviationblog.dallasnews.com/2...ng-again.html/
Had a $15.5M depreciated value.
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From the Dallas News Aviation blog:
UPDATE, 9:40 a.m. Wednesday: A worker at New York LaGuardia sent me this photo, with the notation that the airplane “was completely covered in blue shrinkwrap and quietly placed on a barge on Nov. 2nd around midnite and shipped out of NYC in the still of night without raising an eyebrow.”
I can honestly say that I have never seen a plane wrapped in shrink wrap before. Didn't even know that it was worth it.
UPDATE, 9:40 a.m. Wednesday: A worker at New York LaGuardia sent me this photo, with the notation that the airplane “was completely covered in blue shrinkwrap and quietly placed on a barge on Nov. 2nd around midnite and shipped out of NYC in the still of night without raising an eyebrow.”
I can honestly say that I have never seen a plane wrapped in shrink wrap before. Didn't even know that it was worth it.
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I read through all the documents, particularly the interviews. The thing I took away is that the FO, who was flying the plane, up until the last few seconds, felt that he was flying a satisfactory approach, and didn't really understand why the Captain decided to take control of the plane.
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At the last moment, the captain took the controls and said, "I got it," according to the transcript. Boeing analysts said the switch happened 32 feet in the air, 710 feet after the start of the runway.