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diaspora04 Mar 19, 2008 10:04 am

JAX sux
 
The reasons for this assessment are:

1. There is no elite line at security (other than something called "preferred passengers" which I believe is a third party program similar to Clear Pass. Full maze at 11:15a on Wennesday.

2. The layout of the erminal requires a MIA-type walk from security.

3. The condition of Terminal C is laughable. The ceiling height is less than 9 feet. That said, Terminal C is in the process of being replaced by the end of 2009. Your tax dollars at work.

4. The food options in Terminal C are limited to the Miller "brew pub" (?????) and Frankly Gourmet.

5. AA service is limited, and AA's gates are nearly as far from the parking lot as Savannah, GA.

Avoid if you can, at least for the next 22 months.

TMOliver Mar 19, 2008 10:18 am

[QUOTE=diaspora04;9433211]The reasons for this assessment are:

Jax sux?

If you think it does now, you should have been here...

(a) For the old terminal.

(b) Before a couple of bridges, back when during high traffic hours, travel from Atlantic Beach to the airport could actually be quicker via the Mayport Ferry.

"as far as Savannah?"

There are those who would with justification claim that some gates at the old ATL/Hartsfield (sp?) were actually a longer walk than Savannah.

ricktoronto Mar 19, 2008 12:17 pm

3. Why does a 9' ceiling height matter unless you are a person 9'1" or taller? Or a ladder smuggler, juggler, acrobat, or constantly practicing basketball player.

5. You mean the distance is as far as the distance from Jacksonville to Savannah GA? That's what you wrote and that's 116 air miles. Unless you meant as far from the parking lot to the gates as the Savannah GA airport's are.

Maybe we can have a sticky of this airport sux.

diaspora04 Mar 19, 2008 1:48 pm


Originally Posted by ricktoronto (Post 9434023)
3. Why does a 9' ceiling height matter unless you are a person 9'1" or taller? Or a ladder smuggler, juggler, acrobat, or constantly practicing basketball player.

5. You mean the distance is as far as the distance from Jacksonville to Savannah GA? That's what you wrote and that's 116 air miles. Unless you meant as far from the parking lot to the gates as the Savannah GA airport's are.

Maybe we can have a sticky of this airport sux.

I am surprised that I have to point out that 9' (more like 7'11" in the AA bullpen) is a very low ceiling for an airport or any type of public facility. Consider that Penn Station, which is not likely on anyone's shiny happy list, has more headroom.

Regarding your second point, you will note the inclusion in my original post of the word "nearly." Consider, also, that I might be exaggerating for rhetorical effect (or attempting to do so). I successfully perceived your humor in your reference to ladder smuggling, but am at a loss how you failed to perceive mine.

Is your last sentence intended to chill discussion, albeit nonflattering, of AA facilities or airports that AA serves? While this post does not merit a sticky, it might be helpful for an FTer considering whether to fly into JAX or use another airport and drive.

brp Mar 19, 2008 1:56 pm


Originally Posted by diaspora04 (Post 9434480)
Is your last sentence intended to chill discussion, albeit nonflattering, of AA facilities or airports that AA serves? While this post does not merit a sticky, it might be helpful for an FTer considering whether to fly into JAX or use another airport and drive.

While discussion is certainly to be encouraged here, I doubt many would avoid taking a trip somewhere, or inconvenience themselves on said trip, just because a particular airport was substandard. Most would, I think, accept it as a cost of the trip and deal with it. Your post, though, does help to set expectations so that people won't be too disappointed if they do fly to JAX. Always good to have expectation levels set appropriately.

Cheers.

Blumie Mar 19, 2008 2:05 pm


Originally Posted by brp (Post 9434530)
While discussion is certainly to be encouraged here, I doubt many would avoid taking a trip somewhere, or inconvenience themselves on said trip, just because a particular airport was substandard. Most would, I think, accept it as a cost of the trip and deal with it. Your post, though, does help to set expectations so that people won't be too disappointed if they do fly to JAX. Always good to have expectation levels set appropriately.

While I, of course, will continue to fly to JAX if I find that I need to be in Jacksonville, I, for one, will refuse to connect through JAX on any of my future flights. While the line at security and long walk to the gate would not impact me as a connecting passenger, I'll be damned if I'm gonna connect at an airport with 9' ceilings. (Just to be clear, we're talking about the terminal ceilings, not the weather, right?)

diaspora04 Mar 19, 2008 2:07 pm


Originally Posted by Blumie (Post 9434598)
While I, of course, will continue to fly to JAX if I find that I need to be in Jacksonville, I, for one, will refuse to connect through JAX on any of my future flights. While the line at security and long walk to the gate would not impact me as a connecting passenger, I'll be damned if I'm gonna connect at an airport with 9' ceilings. (Just to be clear, we're talking about the terminal ceilings, not the weather, right?)

Bravo.

oklAAhoma Mar 19, 2008 2:28 pm


Originally Posted by diaspora04 (Post 9434480)
I am surprised that I have to point out that 9' (more like 7'11" in the AA bullpen) is a very low ceiling for an airport or any type of public facility. Consider that Penn Station, which is not likely on anyone's shiny happy list, has more headroom.

Sorry for being dense but I seem to have missed the explanation as to why JAX needs more headroom than Penn Station.

diaspora04 Mar 19, 2008 2:34 pm


Originally Posted by oklAAhoma (Post 9434762)
Sorry for being dense but I seem to have missed the explanation as to why JAX needs more headroom than Penn Station.

So little headroom makes the terminal seem like a cave.

Blumie Mar 19, 2008 2:43 pm


Originally Posted by oklAAhoma (Post 9434762)
Sorry for being dense but I seem to have missed the explanation as to why JAX needs more headroom than Penn Station.

Duh. Cause planes are taller than trains.

Boraxo Mar 19, 2008 2:52 pm

This really belongs in another forum as the conditions at JAX are not specific to AA (or caused by AA).

While I agree that it is not the best airport I visited last year, I would like to commend both the AA staff who were quite helpful in processing my upgrades (and infant related stuff) and the car rental dropoff facility.

I would agree that the concessions leave a lot to be desired. But this is true of most airports that haven't yet "got it." :(

brp Mar 19, 2008 3:40 pm


Originally Posted by Blumie (Post 9434598)
I, for one, will refuse to connect through JAX on any of my future flights. While the line at security and long walk to the gate would not impact me as a connecting passenger, I'll be damned if I'm gonna connect at an airport with 9' ceilings.


Originally Posted by diaspora04 (Post 9434612)
Bravo.

Higher ceilings do allow more to fly over the head, don't they?

Cheers.

vasantn Mar 19, 2008 3:45 pm


Originally Posted by Blumie (Post 9434839)
Duh. Cause planes are taller than trains.


Originally Posted by brp (Post 9435123)
Higher ceilings do allow more to fly over the head, don't they?

Cheers.

Jeez. Your really DUMB. Plane's dont go INSIDE terminal building's. Everyone know's that.

chsb Mar 19, 2008 3:51 pm

One nice attribut about JAX is the full spa. I have made it a point several times to arrive a couple of hours early in order to get a full body massage before my flight.

oklAAhoma Mar 19, 2008 8:13 pm


Originally Posted by Boraxo (Post 9434898)
This really belongs in another forum as the conditions at JAX are not specific to AA (or caused by AA).(

Didn't ya hear? JAX is like a cave, for Pete's sake! IMO this is definitely an AA issue because they have to know full well that the conditions there are abominable. If AA really cared about its customer base, it would pull all flights from JAX immediately. Or even sooner if possible...

... on further thought, you had it right all along. :)


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