Best Business/First Class SFO to Europe?
Jan 11, 2008, 9:46 pm
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Best Business/First Class SFO to Europe?
I am looking to book an award ticket in Business or First class from SFO to IST. I think that there are three one-stop options: AF through CDG, KL through AMS, or DL through JFK. Which is best? My number one priority is seat comfort -- whether it lies flat, etc.
With more than one stop, options increase to DL through SLC/CVG/ATL (maybe something better than a 767 over the Atlantic?) or CO through IAH/EWR, then through another hub in Europe. Maybe also other airlines (AZ, OK, SU) that don't warrant consideration.
Also, AF has three classes, and DL and KL only two, right? I have been underwhelmed by AF's (and, of course, DL's) business class, so I would be interested in AF first if it's much better, as well as in a comparison to KL.
With more than one stop, options increase to DL through SLC/CVG/ATL (maybe something better than a 767 over the Atlantic?) or CO through IAH/EWR, then through another hub in Europe. Maybe also other airlines (AZ, OK, SU) that don't warrant consideration.
Also, AF has three classes, and DL and KL only two, right? I have been underwhelmed by AF's (and, of course, DL's) business class, so I would be interested in AF first if it's much better, as well as in a comparison to KL.
Jan 12, 2008, 3:17 pm
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I don't think that AF F is hugely better than AF J. Better, but not a TON better.
If you fly DL or CO you're flying domestic F on the USA segment, and that is ~5-7 hours of the travel time, so keep that in mind. Similarly, the CDG/AMS-IST flight is going to be in intra-Europe J, which is domestic Y+, though that is shorter than the SFO-JFK flight would be.
Finally, depending on which carrier you've banked miles on, you likely won't be able to book into AF F; only FlyingBlue points can do that.
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If you fly DL or CO you're flying domestic F on the USA segment, and that is ~5-7 hours of the travel time, so keep that in mind. Similarly, the CDG/AMS-IST flight is going to be in intra-Europe J, which is domestic Y+, though that is shorter than the SFO-JFK flight would be.
Finally, depending on which carrier you've banked miles on, you likely won't be able to book into AF F; only FlyingBlue points can do that.
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Jan 13, 2008, 3:44 am
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I don't think that AF F is hugely better than AF J. Better, but not a TON better.
If you fly DL or CO you're flying domestic F on the USA segment, and that is ~5-7 hours of the travel time, so keep that in mind. Similarly, the CDG/AMS-IST flight is going to be in intra-Europe J, which is domestic Y+, though that is shorter than the SFO-JFK flight would be.
Finally, depending on which carrier you've banked miles on, you likely won't be able to book into AF F; only FlyingBlue points can do that.
S.
If you fly DL or CO you're flying domestic F on the USA segment, and that is ~5-7 hours of the travel time, so keep that in mind. Similarly, the CDG/AMS-IST flight is going to be in intra-Europe J, which is domestic Y+, though that is shorter than the SFO-JFK flight would be.
Finally, depending on which carrier you've banked miles on, you likely won't be able to book into AF F; only FlyingBlue points can do that.
S.
Mar 3, 2008, 4:22 pm
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Mar 3, 2008, 11:53 pm
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CO would be the best product, if they actually flew to IST. Id go DL through ATL or JFK. youll get doestic FC seats and service with AVOD at your seat.
youll then get a 767 to IST. DL's seats are narrow, but fine unless you are pretty large. also with AVOD (most AC). you also get the convenience of connecting in the US rather than the EU. DL's will give you Crown room access in SFO and access to their Bizelite lounge in ATL/JFK.
ive heard connections in CDG are disaterous. Ive heard AMS is great but KL isnt that great. middle seats in their biz class (AF too).
youll then get a 767 to IST. DL's seats are narrow, but fine unless you are pretty large. also with AVOD (most AC). you also get the convenience of connecting in the US rather than the EU. DL's will give you Crown room access in SFO and access to their Bizelite lounge in ATL/JFK.
ive heard connections in CDG are disaterous. Ive heard AMS is great but KL isnt that great. middle seats in their biz class (AF too).
Mar 4, 2008, 9:15 am
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CO would be the best product, if they actually flew to IST. Id go DL through ATL or JFK. youll get doestic FC seats and service with AVOD at your seat.
youll then get a 767 to IST. DL's seats are narrow, but fine unless you are pretty large. also with AVOD (most AC). you also get the convenience of connecting in the US rather than the EU. DL's will give you Crown room access in SFO and access to their Bizelite lounge in ATL/JFK.
ive heard connections in CDG are disaterous. Ive heard AMS is great but KL isnt that great. middle seats in their biz class (AF too).
youll then get a 767 to IST. DL's seats are narrow, but fine unless you are pretty large. also with AVOD (most AC). you also get the convenience of connecting in the US rather than the EU. DL's will give you Crown room access in SFO and access to their Bizelite lounge in ATL/JFK.
ive heard connections in CDG are disaterous. Ive heard AMS is great but KL isnt that great. middle seats in their biz class (AF too).