Best SkyTeam Airline?
#16
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: NH and London
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Originally Posted by graraps
AZ are usually quite good about handling irr ops.
Originally Posted by graraps
I also happen to really like their FCO lounges (certainly not a feature you'd expect to find from a LCC).
Originally Posted by graraps
And they 've got proper premium seats intra-Europe.
Originally Posted by graraps
They've certainly got problems...
Originally Posted by graraps
...but a LCC they are not.
Basic premise of a scheduled airline? Transportation of people or goods from point A to point B on a regular and reliable basis. Does AZ do this consistently? I don't believe they do.
Last edited by Flyer_Tuck; Jul 21, 2005 at 5:35 am
#17
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Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: LAX
Programs: AF/KL Plat for Life, ET Gold, M&M FTL, UA Silver, EY Silver, Marriott Plat, HHonors Gold
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I had no idea how this thread would develop when I first posted, but I should have guessed there would be some ST bashing going on.
Personally, I like SkyTeam - they have a big presence in TLV (my home base) with KL, AF, AZ, OK and DL (codeshare with LY) and soon RO (and I have seen Air Europa as well from time to time), they consistently have the cheapest J and Y fares from TLV to almost everywhere I fly and I like for the fares that I fly that I get between 100 and 150% of miles on Y.
When you get right down to it, IMHO, we're travelling on a flying bus - whether its BA (my previous favorite airline till they slashed and burned lots of Y fares to 25%) KL or LH when flying in Y. I don't have high expectations from my bus driver on the ground nor do I have high expectations from the FA's. It's nice when I get treated special, but putting things in proportion none of the travel really is important (I use the five year rule for determining importance - will I remember / will it matter in five years from now).
I feel that way even though I will most likely log > 250,000 miles this year (about 25% J /75 % Y).
I guess for me the only thing that works using the 5-year rule is how I spend my miles in a memorable vacation with the family. I picked SkyTeam because they will get *me* to a meaningful return. Of course, everyone has their own special and personal perspective on choosing an alliance - I am just sharing mine...
Personally, I like SkyTeam - they have a big presence in TLV (my home base) with KL, AF, AZ, OK and DL (codeshare with LY) and soon RO (and I have seen Air Europa as well from time to time), they consistently have the cheapest J and Y fares from TLV to almost everywhere I fly and I like for the fares that I fly that I get between 100 and 150% of miles on Y.
When you get right down to it, IMHO, we're travelling on a flying bus - whether its BA (my previous favorite airline till they slashed and burned lots of Y fares to 25%) KL or LH when flying in Y. I don't have high expectations from my bus driver on the ground nor do I have high expectations from the FA's. It's nice when I get treated special, but putting things in proportion none of the travel really is important (I use the five year rule for determining importance - will I remember / will it matter in five years from now).
I feel that way even though I will most likely log > 250,000 miles this year (about 25% J /75 % Y).
I guess for me the only thing that works using the 5-year rule is how I spend my miles in a memorable vacation with the family. I picked SkyTeam because they will get *me* to a meaningful return. Of course, everyone has their own special and personal perspective on choosing an alliance - I am just sharing mine...
#18


Join Date: Apr 2003
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Originally Posted by graraps
AZ are usually quite good about handling irr ops. For me this is a major differentiator between LCCs and FSCs. I also happen to really like their FCO lounges (certainly not a feature you'd expect to find from a LCC). And they 've got proper premium seats intra-Europe.
They've certainly got problems, but a LCC they are not.
They've certainly got problems, but a LCC they are not.
Based on my personal experience on AZ J intra-Europe, I find it difficult to agree that they are far better than EI
#20
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Join Date: May 2004
Location: Soon to be LEGT
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Originally Posted by alect
Based on my personal experience on AZ J intra-Europe, I find it difficult to agree that they are far better than EI
(BTW this was before the new EU rules came into effect)

