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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 4:33 am
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Who has Business Class?

I'm looking to book an award(Using Onepass Miles) in Biz(Don't have the miles for first at the moment) and I need to know which Skyteam members and also which CO partners offer a C/J class as opposed to something like biz-first.
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 1:47 pm
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CO of course takes the p*ss out of ST flyers, charging F miles for a J product. If transiting in the US was less painful, I would use CO to fly Europe-Venezuela on an award for biz class miles (bit of a loophole at least when using OK miles) just to get my own back.
You shouldn't have a problem securing a Biz class seat in any of the other Skyteam airlines. The only First class available on NW, DL and AZ is short-haul in two-class aircraft and, of course, charged at business miles. Everything else all over Skyteam is called business class and that's what it is!!!
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 8:41 pm
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OKay then, I guess my next question is simple. Which carriers have the "best" buisness class? I have been looking at the websites of each carrier but it seems like a LOT of hype.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 7:14 am
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Originally Posted by gradvmedusa
OKay then, I guess my next question is simple. Which carriers have the "best" buisness class? I have been looking at the websites of each carrier but it seems like a LOT of hype.
Then you'd have to be specific about the route(s) you want to fly, and your available options (short or long haul). For example, KE doesn't sound like the most reasonable choice for CAI-MAD.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 4:24 pm
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For certain I will be flying NYC-NRT and then just all around asia possibly NRT-SIN or NRT-BKK then back again from somewhere else(Probably the opposite ie: fly into BKK and out of SIN) I don't mind connecting or flying odd routes(EK through Dubai to Asia if it's possible) to get the best flight experience, time isn't really an imperative.
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 4:55 am
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For certain I will be flying NYC-NRT and then just all around asia possibly NRT-SIN or NRT-BKK
If the Onepass rules are similar to the ones in OK+, you can only go transpacific. Which basically gives you two options within Skyteam: NW and KE. My impression is that KE is better than NW, but it'd obviously involve more connections (NW have a bit of an Asian hub in NRT).
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 1:18 pm
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Originally Posted by graraps
If the Onepass rules are similar to the ones in OK+, you can only go transpacific.
I know I mentioned this before, but Alitalia once tried to route me SFO-NRT on an award ticket as follows: SFO-JFK (DL), JFK-MXP (AZ), MXP-NRT (AZ). So there's obviously some flexibility within the alliance. AZ also has some interesting ideas about what 'continuous east to west or west to east' direction when creating RTW reward routings (CDG-GRU-MEX-JFK anyone?)
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Old Mar 22, 2005 | 2:03 pm
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AZ also has some interesting ideas about what 'continuous east to west or west to east' direction when creating RTW reward routings (CDG-GRU-MEX-JFK anyone?)
That sounds like a perfectly legal routing to me. GRU is to the east of JFK, and MEX is a hub....
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Old Mar 23, 2005 | 11:26 am
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That sounds like a perfectly legal routing to me. GRU is to the east of JFK, and MEX is a hub....
Those are all stop-overs... I was told the stop-overs had to be in a continuous east-west or west-east direction...

I was expecting to have to do something dumb like:

CDG-GRU-(MEX)-JFK-MEX-(DFW)-SFO

which is W / W / W / W if you omit the bracketed transit (i.e. less than 24 hour) points.

That's because:

CDG-GRU-MEX-JFK-SFO

flown directly is W / W / E / W.

Anyway, I've blown about four hundred thousand AZ miles since then so I don't quite enough for a RTW now.
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Old Mar 24, 2005 | 8:45 am
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