Russia's Aeroflot considers leaving SkyTeam alliance: paper
Jun 30, 2013, 4:30 am
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The costs associated with exiting SkyTeam were mentioned on the above article to be $20 million.
Jun 30, 2013, 7:07 am
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Sounds about right. If you're an airline planning on alliance hopping, you should start with oneworld, which is the only one of the three which doesn't have any exit penalties - being a looser alliance built primarily around marketing and codeshares.
Jun 30, 2013, 7:12 am
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DL just cut the points that Skymiles members can earn for low fare bucket flights on SU which is one reason I have stopped flying SU lately. Otherwise, I'd fly it a lot more as it's better than AF or AZ.
Not sure if SU or DL is responsible for cutting back the points earnings, but if it's DL then I can understand why SU is mad.
Not sure if SU or DL is responsible for cutting back the points earnings, but if it's DL then I can understand why SU is mad.
Jul 1, 2013, 3:25 pm
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Don't get too excited. I have it on reasonably good authority that the main reason for this is an on-going negotiation between SU and DL (and to some extent AF) regarding TATL traffic. This announcement is just to help with their negotiations. It is extremely unlikely that SU would switch alliances at this point.
Jul 2, 2013, 3:22 am
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Don't get too excited. I have it on reasonably good authority that the main reason for this is an on-going negotiation between SU and DL (and to some extent AF) regarding TATL traffic. This announcement is just to help with their negotiations. It is extremely unlikely that SU would switch alliances at this point.
Jul 8, 2013, 12:36 pm
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Here is additional information from Aeroflot CEO, http://finance.yahoo.com/news/aerofl...143401638.html
Jul 10, 2013, 2:35 am
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Do you have an entry date for SU's admission to *A, champ?
Aug 27, 2013, 4:54 am
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Aeroflot shouldn't leave.
Aeroflot should summarily be kicked out.
Nice cabin crews, horrible policies in everything else.
Book an award ticket originating ex-US on Aeroflot? Get ready to get hosed on a laundry list of fees.
Lounge access if you are Delta Sky Team Elite flying on an Aeroflot flight (bought through Delta or Aeroflot) - As of 2 August internal Aeroflot memo, no access fr Delta SkyMiles. SkyTeam rules don't apply and Delta answers with lip service.
Preferred seating as Elite? Nope. You get what you get.
SkyMiles for Aeroflot flights, seamless? Yeah, right. Anything but seamless and always not in the flier's favor. And this is only getting worse.
So, beware of delta.com selling you anything Aeroflot. Not worth it. Don't know if they are crapping on each other or just one on the other. Net result is customer gets screwed.
Aeroflot should summarily be kicked out.
Nice cabin crews, horrible policies in everything else.
Book an award ticket originating ex-US on Aeroflot? Get ready to get hosed on a laundry list of fees.
Lounge access if you are Delta Sky Team Elite flying on an Aeroflot flight (bought through Delta or Aeroflot) - As of 2 August internal Aeroflot memo, no access fr Delta SkyMiles. SkyTeam rules don't apply and Delta answers with lip service.
Preferred seating as Elite? Nope. You get what you get.
SkyMiles for Aeroflot flights, seamless? Yeah, right. Anything but seamless and always not in the flier's favor. And this is only getting worse.
So, beware of delta.com selling you anything Aeroflot. Not worth it. Don't know if they are crapping on each other or just one on the other. Net result is customer gets screwed.
Aug 27, 2013, 8:58 am
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I can't imagine what other airlines that aren't already in an alliance would want to be in one with LY. Ukrainian? Transaero? Those are the only ones I can think of and given how bad LY's FF program is, I can only imagine how awful that alliance would be.
If the lounge access thing for ST Elites on SU is true as socal23 says, then there really is no reason to fly SU anymore. DL's gutting the mileage earning potential on low fare coach flights was the first reason I stopped flying them, but this adds insult to injury.
If the lounge access thing for ST Elites on SU is true as socal23 says, then there really is no reason to fly SU anymore. DL's gutting the mileage earning potential on low fare coach flights was the first reason I stopped flying them, but this adds insult to injury.
Aug 27, 2013, 12:00 pm
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Interestingly enough is was Aerosvit and a couple of second tier Russian airlines who I remember experessed interest in a 4th alliance with El Al. Whilst it would never be able to compete with the big 3, it was El Al's way of protesting against all 3 alliances denying it entry.
Sep 4, 2013, 9:23 am
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It is not the day of alliance is coming to an end. It is the day Delta want to dominate every aspect of Skyteam by changing its FFP around and raise the settles fees on codeshares...Nothing wrong by the way until the alliance member is discriminated against (e.g. Korean Airways case)