Why is it that Skyteam has trouble adding quality partners?
Oct 16, 2010 | 6:33 pm
#31
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I agree. Actually IB's long-haul in J is now full flat and food has always been excellent.
Oct 18, 2010 | 3:11 am
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Yes I have. I fully agree with you that IB C/J has progressed enormously in the past couple of years, notably short haul. Y, however, is really pretty horrible (except flights operated by Air Nostrum, which are not as fabulous as before but remain much better than mainline IB). I want to clarify my point though - I did not mean to 'bash' any airline and suggest that any of them is 'the worst', but just that Skyteam, with its diversity is in my humble opinion consistently in the same league as the two other major alliances. Some of the airlines in ST, OW, *A are good/bad for short haul/long haul Y/J/F and I just disagreed with the starting suggestion here that ST gets the worst of everything. Like you, I'd choose IB short-haul J over BA short-haul J in the same way I'd choose SU short-haul Y over AF short-haul Y and TK long-haul Y over LH long-haul Y.
Oct 18, 2010 | 3:18 am
#33
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Yup,
New planes, free drinks (including beer), free snack, free candy, friendly young (good looking) Brasilian staff.
Much better than the pitiful SAS flight last night where they charge for water! I don't think it is possible to lower the bar any further without starting bathroom charges.
New planes, free drinks (including beer), free snack, free candy, friendly young (good looking) Brasilian staff.
Much better than the pitiful SAS flight last night where they charge for water! I don't think it is possible to lower the bar any further without starting bathroom charges.
Oct 21, 2010 | 5:27 am
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Oct 24, 2010 | 8:49 pm
#36
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Haha. Funny and true. ^^
Interesting thing is that some of the carriers in Skyteam are getting better over time. I think KE, KQ, and AZ have made significant strides since joining ST.
ST has also been picking up carriers in developing markets (China, Vietnam, Argentina, and hopefully Indonesia soon). To an extent, it may work to ST's benefit in the long run. We'll have to see.
Interesting thing is that some of the carriers in Skyteam are getting better over time. I think KE, KQ, and AZ have made significant strides since joining ST.
ST has also been picking up carriers in developing markets (China, Vietnam, Argentina, and hopefully Indonesia soon). To an extent, it may work to ST's benefit in the long run. We'll have to see.
Oct 27, 2010 | 12:47 pm
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Oct 28, 2010 | 11:53 am
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But on the otherhand... for people who don't fly very much and just want to earn Destination miles, ST is one of the worst players in there... I'm trying to look at which program to join, I'm flying for the first time Long Haul (BRU-JNB-CPT) with ST, and I want those miles to count! But with FlyingBlue, you get very poor mileage accrual in discounted fares, and you can't stop hearing around these forum that Delta's program is called SkyPesos!!
My question really is what to join. I think i will fly quite a few time in the future with ST so that it's worth joining a program, but not enough if I start earning 25% or nothing everytime I fly.
Apart from DL, FB there isn't much other choice I think to me than CSA's OK, which people recommend, but they're accrual is a bit worse than that of DL. It seems the good deal with them is to earn tiers with very few flight segments, but then what do I do with a czech tier if I don't fly CSA?
Can someone help me out here... which program do you reckon I should join? How bad is Delta in all fairness? - won't they be tempted to Join *A?
Thanks a lot
My question really is what to join. I think i will fly quite a few time in the future with ST so that it's worth joining a program, but not enough if I start earning 25% or nothing everytime I fly.
Apart from DL, FB there isn't much other choice I think to me than CSA's OK, which people recommend, but they're accrual is a bit worse than that of DL. It seems the good deal with them is to earn tiers with very few flight segments, but then what do I do with a czech tier if I don't fly CSA?
Can someone help me out here... which program do you reckon I should join? How bad is Delta in all fairness? - won't they be tempted to Join *A?
Thanks a lot
http://alitalia.com/GB_EN/millemigli...eam/index.aspx
50% is always the minimum for Y and if you manage to get an AZ booking you will get 300% miles in J/C. There are also the external memebers, EY and QF, as well as many non-SkyTeam code-sharers on which to earn AZ and therefore ST miles, so why not give it a try.
On your particular destination, I couldn't find your exact routing, but for example on BRU-AMS-CPT you can get a KLM T class for 873 return, which would get you only 3760 miles on FB but 7520 on Alitalia's MM.
As for DL, I sencerely have no idea, maybe someone else can help you on that.