Traveling to Malay / Indonesia on a long layover?
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Traveling to Malay / Indonesia on a long layover?
I am looking at a 15 hr layover in SIN on SQ (MAA-SIN-EWR) on a Monday in late September. Flight arrives in SIN around 8 am
My bags will be through checked to EWR. I am a US citizen and know I can enter SIN during my transit as I did this back in May 22
The question is whether I can make a quick day trip to Batam or Johor during my layover? This would mean I would have to re-enter SIN twice and not sure if this is allowed as a transit passenger? Do I have to fill out another arrival card during my day trip?
The reason I want to do this is simple: I've been to Singapore many times, but never been to Malaysia or Indonesia
My bags will be through checked to EWR. I am a US citizen and know I can enter SIN during my transit as I did this back in May 22
The question is whether I can make a quick day trip to Batam or Johor during my layover? This would mean I would have to re-enter SIN twice and not sure if this is allowed as a transit passenger? Do I have to fill out another arrival card during my day trip?
The reason I want to do this is simple: I've been to Singapore many times, but never been to Malaysia or Indonesia
#2
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You can, but be prepared for traffic on the Johor causeway both ways - you don't want to miss your flight
Batam ferry might be more consistent
Honestly I probably wouldn't do it, too exhausting
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Batam ferry might be more consistent
Honestly I probably wouldn't do it, too exhausting
https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/34512964-post2.html
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I am looking at a 15 hr layover in SIN on SQ (MAA-SIN-EWR) on a Monday in late September. Flight arrives in SIN around 8 am
My bags will be through checked to EWR. I am a US citizen and know I can enter SIN during my transit as I did this back in May 22
The question is whether I can make a quick day trip to Batam or Johor during my layover? This would mean I would have to re-enter SIN twice and not sure if this is allowed as a transit passenger? Do I have to fill out another arrival card during my day trip?
The reason I want to do this is simple: I've been to Singapore many times, but never been to Malaysia or Indonesia
My bags will be through checked to EWR. I am a US citizen and know I can enter SIN during my transit as I did this back in May 22
The question is whether I can make a quick day trip to Batam or Johor during my layover? This would mean I would have to re-enter SIN twice and not sure if this is allowed as a transit passenger? Do I have to fill out another arrival card during my day trip?
The reason I want to do this is simple: I've been to Singapore many times, but never been to Malaysia or Indonesia
Until Malaysia, Singapore and Indonesia are completely 'back in 2019' and things are running as it was before, I would not do such risky things.
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I used to do these things some years back - it may be different now but neither would be my choice for a stop over.
As for immigration - you would have no problems.
To go to JB there is / was a train from Singapore downtown - but it took a while. You can also catch the MRT and walk across the causeway then take a taxi to some shopping malls. My experience at the time was car queues were long but walking had no queues. (Understandably because you need to be mad to do it. I do remember a sign on approaching the Singapore checkpoint that said "importing fireworks is an offence punishable by jail and a caning".)
To go to Batam there is a ferry, but at the other end there isn't much to see. The Indonesia immigration office at the Batam ferry wharf took my passport and fortunately returned it only when I left. If this makes you uneasy you may want to rule Batam out. Once past that I was a sucker for the taxi touts that surrounded me and there was really nothing else to do. I ended up taking a car to a golf club for lunch and a beer and then an early return to the wharf.
Honestly, after both of these experiences (I did JB several times) I would stick in Singapore.
As for immigration - you would have no problems.
To go to JB there is / was a train from Singapore downtown - but it took a while. You can also catch the MRT and walk across the causeway then take a taxi to some shopping malls. My experience at the time was car queues were long but walking had no queues. (Understandably because you need to be mad to do it. I do remember a sign on approaching the Singapore checkpoint that said "importing fireworks is an offence punishable by jail and a caning".)
To go to Batam there is a ferry, but at the other end there isn't much to see. The Indonesia immigration office at the Batam ferry wharf took my passport and fortunately returned it only when I left. If this makes you uneasy you may want to rule Batam out. Once past that I was a sucker for the taxi touts that surrounded me and there was really nothing else to do. I ended up taking a car to a golf club for lunch and a beer and then an early return to the wharf.
Honestly, after both of these experiences (I did JB several times) I would stick in Singapore.
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I wouldn't even risk it for Johor.... I flew in once into Senai, and had a private transfer by car to Bugis.... Monday evening, it took me 2h just to pass the Malaysian border controls... it was crazy.
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Thank you all for the suggestions. I agree after reading your comments that this is a bit risky to say the least. I'm in my late 40s and certainly not with the appetite to get stranded hahaha. Thanks for the feedback though
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It is 90min one way, leaving from Harborfront. There is (was) 2-3 ferries per day. At Karumun you are transported back by 60 or more years and you can see what 'Indonesian Indonesia' looks like, contrary to Batam. Hotels are like $30 per night and you can go and see local Chinese temples, enjoy seafood at 1/4 of the price of Singapore, see/shop at the night market and even bring back Kueh Lapis. There is really nothing to do - just wander around but enough for 12 hours.
Last and only time I have been there was in 2019 and I am sorry I have not discovered it earlier during my 10 years living in Singapore. And it was the only place you could go during National Day 4 day holiday without being stuck 12 hours on a border crossing and pay 4x of the price of an ordinary ticket...