Difference between Z and C class ?
Sep 16, 2007 | 3:48 am
#2
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Both are business class tickets, but from different fare buckets. There is no actual difference between the service one would get. Or at least not that I know of.
One of the fare is discounted, and I believe that and assume that Z is the discounted business class fare because for the majority of the airlines, Z is discounted fare. On certain airlines, such as United, they only give 100% miles for Z class tickets.
One of the fare is discounted, and I believe that and assume that Z is the discounted business class fare because for the majority of the airlines, Z is discounted fare. On certain airlines, such as United, they only give 100% miles for Z class tickets.
Last edited by dfs24; Sep 16, 2007 at 9:17 am
Sep 16, 2007 | 7:23 am
#3
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On most airlines, C fares are fully changeable, fully refundable walk-up fares, while Z fares are typically non-changeable, non-refundable, advance-purchase fares. This is the case with SQ.
Sep 16, 2007 | 8:08 am
#4
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Mostly true, however, SQ uses Z as the prime booking codes for LAX/EWR-SIN nonstops. Those are the most flexible fares on those routes.
Sep 16, 2007 | 10:36 am
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Hrrm... on my recent AMS-SIN return leg, I was waitlisted on my C fare ticket but confirmed on a Z class seat which would have required an $800 top up and $150 ticket reissue fee. Luckily the C fare seat cleared a few days before my flight.
Sep 16, 2007 | 1:42 pm
#7
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Z and C are both business fare. If you start originally from CGK then C is discounted fare and Z is full business fare. Out of CGK if you hold C class then you are able to have 1 stop over on the inbound flight and Z you can have both inbound and outbound stop over. Out of SIN Z is discounted fare and C is the highest.
Sep 16, 2007 | 4:35 pm
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Sep 16, 2007 | 7:42 pm
#9
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From the horse's mouth (or rather, email address):
We offer 5 types of booking class on our business class service as follows:
(1) C - is full fare business class booking class
(2) J - is business class fare with restriction/s booking class
(3) D - is business class round-the-world booking class, and selected Interline Sales
(4) I - is business class redemption booking class
(5) Z - is business class on A345 non-stop flight between Singapore-Los Angeles, and vv.
We offer 5 types of booking class on our business class service as follows:
(1) C - is full fare business class booking class
(2) J - is business class fare with restriction/s booking class
(3) D - is business class round-the-world booking class, and selected Interline Sales
(4) I - is business class redemption booking class
(5) Z - is business class on A345 non-stop flight between Singapore-Los Angeles, and vv.
Sep 18, 2007 | 9:55 am
#11
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Z and C are both business fare. If you start originally from CGK then C is discounted fare and Z is full business fare. Out of CGK if you hold C class then you are able to have 1 stop over on the inbound flight and Z you can have both inbound and outbound stop over. Out of SIN Z is discounted fare and C is the highest.
From the horse's mouth (or rather, email address):
We offer 5 types of booking class on our business class service as follows:
(1) C - is full fare business class booking class
(2) J - is business class fare with restriction/s booking class
(3) D - is business class round-the-world booking class, and selected Interline Sales
(4) I - is business class redemption booking class
(5) Z - is business class on A345 non-stop flight between Singapore-Los Angeles, and vv.
We offer 5 types of booking class on our business class service as follows:
(1) C - is full fare business class booking class
(2) J - is business class fare with restriction/s booking class
(3) D - is business class round-the-world booking class, and selected Interline Sales
(4) I - is business class redemption booking class
(5) Z - is business class on A345 non-stop flight between Singapore-Los Angeles, and vv.
Sep 18, 2007 | 10:28 am
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Sep 18, 2007 | 10:53 am
#13
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Z class is available for all entire flights out of CGK. It is not true that Z class only available on A345.
Sep 18, 2007 | 2:43 pm
#14
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I think there is some confusion here. Z class is on the A345 longhaul. Because pax flying those flights may be connecting to or from other flights, the same booking class is made available on other flights. However Z cannot be booked for an itinerary that doesn't include an A345 longhaul flight. The alternative approach (used by some airlines) is to specify in the fare rules that Z (or whatever) is an upsell for certain flights, and the other connecting flights allowed in the fare book into another class. There are advantages and disadvantages of each approach.
Sep 18, 2007 | 2:46 pm
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Both are business class tickets, but from different fare buckets. There is no actual difference between the service one would get. Or at least not that I know of.
One of the fare is discounted, and I believe that and assume that Z is the discounted business class fare because for the majority of the airlines, Z is discounted fare. On certain airlines, such as United, they only give 100% miles for Z class tickets.
One of the fare is discounted, and I believe that and assume that Z is the discounted business class fare because for the majority of the airlines, Z is discounted fare. On certain airlines, such as United, they only give 100% miles for Z class tickets.
Flying United in Z class and crediting to Mileage Plus only earns 100% miles. But business class bonus is earned when crediting to some other FFPs. Likewise, Z class flying some other airlines may earn differently. There are no absolutely common classes in terms of fare type/earning rates/etc.