Hefty fuel tax on award ticket

Old Aug 9, 07, 3:06 pm
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Hefty fuel tax on award ticket

A friend just used 120,000 SQ miles to book two roundtrips in coach from the USA to Asia. The YQ tax (fuel tax) on each ticket was SGD 215!

None of the booked flights were on SQ -- there were three segments on UA and two on NH. I booked an identical award reservation using my UA miles, and there was no YQ tax at all. When we called SQ to find out what this was all about, they insisted that either UA or NH imposes these fees and they have nothing to do with it, but I know this can't be true as I didn't have to pay the fuel tax on my identical itinerary.

Any thoughts on this? Does anyone have experience here? Thanks in advance.
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Old Aug 9, 07, 3:25 pm
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SQ charges fuel surcharge - doesn't matter which airline you actually fly.
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Old Aug 9, 07, 4:34 pm
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Hmm, why do they do this? I am intrigued.
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Old Aug 9, 07, 4:37 pm
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It's not a tax - just a way to increase ticket prices without having to advertise that fact.
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Old Aug 9, 07, 4:41 pm
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Originally Posted by erik123 View Post
It's not a tax - just a way to increase ticket prices without having to advertise that fact.
Exactly. Why do people fall for this? It's a great scam on the airlines' (yes, that apostrophe is in the right place) part. YQ on a frequent flier ticket is no more legit than charging a "flight expense surcharge" (equal to the cost of a ticket) to cover the cost pilots, aircraft, flight attendants, etc.
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Old Aug 9, 07, 4:58 pm
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UA does have a specific policy NOT to charge YQ fuel surcharge on any award ticket issued using UA miles.
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Old Aug 9, 07, 6:05 pm
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So was I lied to when the SQ agent told us that NH and/or UA (the airlines comprising my friend's itinerary) were the ones levying this fee?

Seems pretty dirty to me.
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Old Aug 9, 07, 7:17 pm
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Originally Posted by EmoryFlyer View Post
So was I lied to when the SQ agent told us that NH and/or UA (the airlines comprising my friend's itinerary) were the ones levying this fee?

Seems pretty dirty to me.
Not necessarily. For all we know UA as operating airline IS charging SQ for fuel costs. The fact UA Mileage Plus chooses not to charge on its awards is a separate matter.
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Old Aug 9, 07, 10:00 pm
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Originally Posted by EmoryFlyer View Post
So was I lied to when the SQ agent told us that NH and/or UA (the airlines comprising my friend's itinerary) were the ones levying this fee?

Seems pretty dirty to me.
There is nothing dirty about it.

You need to pay fuel surcharge if redeeming SQ miles, even if flying UA or NH. You don't need to pay fuel surcharge if redeeming UA miles, even if flying SQ. I believe it is a US DOT regulation which prevents UA from collecting YQ. BTW, SGD215 is only about USD140. It is not unusual to pay upward of USD300 for taxes and fees now.

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Old Aug 9, 07, 10:29 pm
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Not necessarily. For all we know UA as operating airline IS charging SQ for fuel costs. The fact UA Mileage Plus chooses not to charge on its awards is a separate matter.
Sure. But it is odd that MP doesn't charge YQ for awards on other airlines... Do you think MP is absorbing the YQ cost when issuing award tickets on SQ?
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Old Aug 9, 07, 10:47 pm
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I recently redeemed a First Class (LX and TG) award ticket JFK/ZRH/BKK/CEI via Air Canada Aeroplan. The total taxes were CAD 56.84. I am assuming there was no fuel surcharge...or I was just very lucky.
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UA does have a specific policy NOT to charge YQ fuel surcharge on any award ticket issued using UA miles.
But if you book using UA miles via a European call centre, they will always charge the YQ.
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Old Aug 11, 07, 8:15 pm
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But if you book using UA miles via a European call centre, they will always charge the YQ.
Seriously? That's not policy.
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My last reward flight in April AKL/SIN/BKK/SIN/AKL had taxes of IA 16.00, SG 21.00 and XT 281.00 totalling SGD318.00.


BKK departure tax of THB700 will be in there somewhere.
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