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ATWonline: SQ looking to replace A345s with 772LRs

Old Nov 16, 04, 10:00 pm
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ATWonline: SQ looking to replace A345s with 772LRs

Who DIDN'T see this coming?

Good stuff... would LOVE to see a twinjet on their ultralonghauls versus those A340 thingies ^

Anywho:
Singapore Airlines appears to be moving toward an order for 777-200LRs that may replace A340-500s on its Los-Angeles-Singapore and New York-Singapore routes. According to airline sources, A340-500 pilots were briefed recently on the ultra-long operations status and "they were told that a 777-200LR order is likely." Boeing recently released new performance data for the type, which will roll out early next year and enter service in 2006. The aircraft will be capable of flying between Singapore and New York with 301 passengers and 18,000 lb. of cargo and returning with 301 passengers and 16,000 lb. of cargo. The dramatic hike in performance is the result of flight-test and commercial-service experience for the 777-300ER, which has bettered fuel-burn performance guarantees. However, the range figures do not include the latest data revealed by Japan Airlines and Air France to this website of a further improvement of 0.8% in fuel burn (ATWOnline, Nov. 1). SIA recently ordered/optioned up to 31 777-300ERs to replace some elements of its 747-400 fleet. To date, Boeing has announced orders for only five 777-200LRs.
http://www.atwonline.com/indexfull.cfm?newsid=4749
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Old Nov 17, 04, 1:35 am
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Originally Posted by ConcordeBoy
Who DIDN'T see this coming?



See post 51 on this thread:

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showt...15#post3345015
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Old Nov 17, 04, 1:47 am
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I don't really mind either one (A345 or B772LR) as long as they make the interior & seats better and better.
I suppose the twinjet will be reliable enough not to force flights to make technical diversion often, right?
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Old Nov 17, 04, 2:18 am
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Diversions

Originally Posted by StarG
I suppose the twinjet will be reliable enough not to force flights to make technical diversion often, right?
ETOPS twins make far fewer diversions than do quads. There are half as many engines that could fail and each is maintained to higher standards.

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Old Nov 17, 04, 3:44 am
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Bleuch. I have an increasing dislike of the 777. It's just too big, too noisy and too hot.
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Old Nov 17, 04, 7:36 am
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Originally Posted by Swanhunter
I have an increasing dislike of the 777. It's just too big, too noisy and too hot.
Quieter would be nice, but the only disadvantage I can think of which comes from increased size is disembarkation time and temperatures are regulated by the stewardesses. Complain if the cabin is too warm.
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Old Nov 17, 04, 9:38 am
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This makes perfect business and operation sense. With one of the world's largest 777-200 fleet and up to 31 777-300 in firm order and options, this will be a good decision.

Any more update on SQ's evaluation of 7E7 and proposed (yet not launched) A350?
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Old Nov 17, 04, 11:10 am
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Originally Posted by Swanhunter
Bleuch. I have an increasing dislike of the 777. It's just too big, too noisy and too hot.
....and too spacious, and too fast, and too dispatch reliable, and too fuel-efficient, and too high of a payload/range profile, and too fast-selling, and too.....
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Old Nov 17, 04, 11:33 am
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Originally Posted by UA_Flyer
Any more update on SQ's evaluation of 7E7 and proposed (yet not launched) A350?
SQ seem likely to order B747Adv, B777-200LR, and B7E7 within the next six to twelve months. SQ may place be a combined order including two or all three of the above types.
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Old Nov 17, 04, 11:54 am
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Originally Posted by zvezda
SQ seem likely to order B747Adv, B777-200LR, and B7E7 within the next six to twelve months. SQ may place be a combined order including two or all three of the above types.
So does that mean once the fanfare of operating the FIRST A380 revenue flight to London and the hype of its new seats and service etc has died down that it will replace it with the B747-400ADV?

Pity because Airbus make good aircrafts. Regionally, amongst other major Asean carriers, SQ has the least number Airbus-made aircrafts.
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Old Nov 17, 04, 1:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Guy Betsy
So does that mean once the fanfare of operating the FIRST A380 revenue flight to London and the hype of its new seats and service etc has died down that it will replace it with the B747-400ADV?
Any 'potential' SQ 747ADV purchase would have no bearing on their current A380 order. The 747ADV hasn't even 'officially' been started yet, the A380 will fly in few months.
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Old Nov 17, 04, 2:15 pm
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Originally Posted by Guy Betsy
Pity because Airbus make good aircrafts. Regionally, amongst other major Asean carriers, SQ has the least number Airbus-made aircrafts.
Exactly the reason why I prefer SQ to the other major Asean carriers!
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Old Nov 17, 04, 3:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Swanhunter
Bleuch. I have an increasing dislike of the 777. It's just too big, too noisy and too hot.
I'll second that. I prefer the A330/A340 over the 777 and there's no risk of getting a middle seat in C. Although I've been a loyal SIA customer for years I have chosen to fly MH several times recently on a 330 rather than SIA on the 777 just for the quiet and the nicer cabin.
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Old Nov 17, 04, 7:02 pm
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I prefer the A330/A340 over the 777 and there's no risk of getting a middle seat in C.
...and you actually believe that?
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Old Nov 17, 04, 8:53 pm
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Originally Posted by Guy Betsy
So does that mean once the fanfare of operating the FIRST A380 revenue flight to London and the hype of its new seats and service etc has died down that it will replace it with the B747-400ADV?
I expect SQ to operate both the B747Adv and the A380. The B747Adv will fit nicely into the large gap between the B777-300 and the A380.

ps: It's not designated B747-400Adv, just B747Adv, and will probably eventually be designated B747-500.
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