A350-900 ULR Singapore Airlines
Aug 1, 2018, 10:19 pm
#76
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 46
If you folks had the choice of only one of SQ 21 or SQ 22 in business, which would you pick?
SQ 21, 9:45am to 5:15pm seems like more reasonable timing, as you can enjoy a nice meal service after taking off and before landing with (a lot of) sleep in between.
SQ 22, 12:40am to 5:30am feels like a SUUUUPER long redeye. I'm not sure I'd want to eat right after getting on that flight and then I'm not sure if the meal service would even be aligned when when I get my appetite back.
Also, saver award availability == upgradeability from PE right? So if I can search a 92k miles business award, then it should be safe to book a PE flexi ticket and transfer 47k miles into my SQ account for the upgrade...?
I am definitely seeing saver business redemptions available, 184k miles for a round-trip, though haven't grabbed one yet. Have you tried looking at itineraries that connect in SIN?
SQ 21, 9:45am to 5:15pm seems like more reasonable timing, as you can enjoy a nice meal service after taking off and before landing with (a lot of) sleep in between.
SQ 22, 12:40am to 5:30am feels like a SUUUUPER long redeye. I'm not sure I'd want to eat right after getting on that flight and then I'm not sure if the meal service would even be aligned when when I get my appetite back.
Also, saver award availability == upgradeability from PE right? So if I can search a 92k miles business award, then it should be safe to book a PE flexi ticket and transfer 47k miles into my SQ account for the upgrade...?
I was unable to find a single day where a business class award seat for 92K miles (saver rate) was available on this flight, even at the end of their schedule. As was suggested by the phone interaction, it appears that awards/upgrades on this flight are currently blocked. Please post if you have been able to book an award on this flight.
Aug 2, 2018, 10:38 am
#77
Join Date: Sep 2000
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If you folks had the choice of only one of SQ 21 or SQ 22 in business, which would you pick?
SQ 21, 9:45am to 5:15pm seems like more reasonable timing, as you can enjoy a nice meal service after taking off and before landing with (a lot of) sleep in between.
SQ 22, 12:40am to 5:30am feels like a SUUUUPER long redeye. I'm not sure I'd want to eat right after getting on that flight and then I'm not sure if the meal service would even be aligned when when I get my appetite back.
SQ 21, 9:45am to 5:15pm seems like more reasonable timing, as you can enjoy a nice meal service after taking off and before landing with (a lot of) sleep in between.
SQ 22, 12:40am to 5:30am feels like a SUUUUPER long redeye. I'm not sure I'd want to eat right after getting on that flight and then I'm not sure if the meal service would even be aligned when when I get my appetite back.
Aug 2, 2018, 5:47 pm
#78
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: USA
Posts: 91
If you folks had the choice of only one of SQ 21 or SQ 22 in business, which would you pick?
SQ 21, 9:45am to 5:15pm seems like more reasonable timing, as you can enjoy a nice meal service after taking off and before landing with (a lot of) sleep in between.
SQ 22, 12:40am to 5:30am feels like a SUUUUPER long redeye. I'm not sure I'd want to eat right after getting on that flight and then I'm not sure if the meal service would even be aligned when when I get my appetite back.
Also, saver award availability == upgradeability from PE right? So if I can search a 92k miles business award, then it should be safe to book a PE flexi ticket and transfer 47k miles into my SQ account for the upgrade...?
I am definitely seeing saver business redemptions available, 184k miles for a round-trip, though haven't grabbed one yet. Have you tried looking at itineraries that connect in SIN?
SQ 21, 9:45am to 5:15pm seems like more reasonable timing, as you can enjoy a nice meal service after taking off and before landing with (a lot of) sleep in between.
SQ 22, 12:40am to 5:30am feels like a SUUUUPER long redeye. I'm not sure I'd want to eat right after getting on that flight and then I'm not sure if the meal service would even be aligned when when I get my appetite back.
Also, saver award availability == upgradeability from PE right? So if I can search a 92k miles business award, then it should be safe to book a PE flexi ticket and transfer 47k miles into my SQ account for the upgrade...?
I am definitely seeing saver business redemptions available, 184k miles for a round-trip, though haven't grabbed one yet. Have you tried looking at itineraries that connect in SIN?
Aug 3, 2018, 3:54 am
#80
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Singapore
Programs: QF LTG, SQ EGTP, Bonvoy LTG
Posts: 4,847
The good thing about such long flights without stops (at least in business class) is you don’t get interrupted mid flight. The new SQ 22 timetable is almost the same as the old SQ 21 timetable (EWR-SIN). That’s flight was good for post take off supper. Try and stay awake as long as one can then sleep for a while, enjoy a snack and movie and maybe some more sleep then a breakfast before landing. I’d say it’s better than , for example SQ 26 where you have the FRA interruption.
Aug 13, 2018, 9:20 am
#81
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Portland OR & Bangkok
Programs: United GS, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 662
While Singapore Airlines hasn't made this explicit in its press release (hence some confusion and speculation) the ULR will use the same business class seat as the standard A350-900. We quizzed the airline on ULR seating at the time of the non-stop NY announcement and SQ media advised "We have chosen to use a consistent product across our long-haul A350 fleet."
The new lie-flat regional seat seams to look better.
Thinking about booking a RT in business (paid) but really dread that sleeping position!
Aug 22, 2018, 9:31 pm
#82
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: New York, New York
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Here are a few things SQ is planning specifically for the A359-ULR
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-sci...39076?mod=e2fb
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-sci...39076?mod=e2fb
Aug 23, 2018, 9:29 am
#83
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Portland OR & Bangkok
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Here are a few things SQ is planning specifically for the A359-ULR
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-sci...39076?mod=e2fb
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-sci...39076?mod=e2fb
Aug 23, 2018, 9:47 am
#84
Join Date: Sep 2000
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Aug 23, 2018, 4:07 pm
#85
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Long Beach, CA
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Interestingly, at least one of these A350ULRs is going to have the same registration as a prior A345: 9V-SGE
I happened to look through my list of previously flown aircraft and was curious to see what had become of the A345 that I flew LAX-SIN a few years back.
It came up with this: https://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-a350-216.htm
I wonder if it's just a coincidence or if the other A345s that were in the fleet will have their reg numbers transferred to the new A350ULRs
I happened to look through my list of previously flown aircraft and was curious to see what had become of the A345 that I flew LAX-SIN a few years back.
It came up with this: https://www.airfleets.net/ficheapp/plane-a350-216.htm
I wonder if it's just a coincidence or if the other A345s that were in the fleet will have their reg numbers transferred to the new A350ULRs
Aug 25, 2018, 1:58 pm
#86
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: LAX
Posts: 3,267
If you don't have access to the WSJ, don't worry...the article is fairly general.
Basically, it says that Qantas, Singapore, and other airlines are putting a lot of energy into the science of long flights. They're adjusting menus to keep people hydrated, adjusting food items so they'll keep/reheat properly after being stored aboard the aircraft for long hours before serving, and trying to find ways to encourage people to get up and move around the cabin (like serving more soup) to avoid DVT.
Basically, it says that Qantas, Singapore, and other airlines are putting a lot of energy into the science of long flights. They're adjusting menus to keep people hydrated, adjusting food items so they'll keep/reheat properly after being stored aboard the aircraft for long hours before serving, and trying to find ways to encourage people to get up and move around the cabin (like serving more soup) to avoid DVT.
Aug 31, 2018, 4:36 am
#87
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: LAX IAH AMS
Programs: UA GS 1MM
Posts: 1,267
I've read through this thread but thought I would ask for clarification... I have avoided the A350 J product several times simply because of the terrible reviews of the seat. I am "large" by global standards... haha... 6'3"+ so I require a bit more room.
From what I have read, the J seats are going to be the same on the ULR as the XWB, but will the spacing between the rows be the same? Sounds like that's the biggest issue with the current seats.... seams like they are crammed in from row to row.
From what I have read, the J seats are going to be the same on the ULR as the XWB, but will the spacing between the rows be the same? Sounds like that's the biggest issue with the current seats.... seams like they are crammed in from row to row.
Aug 31, 2018, 8:55 am
#88
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: SFO
Posts: 3,881
Won't know until the plane is in service. The 2013 J seat is the same on all A350s and almost all the 773s but there is/will likely be subtle differences.
Aug 31, 2018, 2:50 pm
#89
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: MSP
Posts: 185
Just booked on SQ33 SFO-SIN (3x weekly) in Dec in PE. Looking forward to the flight - I like the timings, evening departure from SFO, early morning arrival in SIN. Not sure how I feel about 17 hours of darkness, but looking forward to the experience.
Last edited by zeebanker; Aug 31, 2018 at 3:03 pm