May 2017 updates to PPS program: solitaire after S$50k/yr and more!
May 29, 2017, 11:47 pm
#1
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May 2017 updates to PPS program: solitaire after S$50k/yr and more!
Thoughts?
From 1 June 17
Earn in a single calendar year:
* S$30,000 - 2x vouchers to earn 2x KF miles for a single segment
* S$40,000 - 50,000 miles redemption discount on your next award flight or upgrade
Other perks
* Non-expiry of miles. Now, your KrisFlyer miles will not expire as long as you remain a PPS Club member.
* Priority redemption. You will be given priority to Saver Awards flight availability.
* Preferred seating. Enjoy complimentary Preferred Seats when you fly in Premium Economy Class or Economy Class on Singapore Airlines, and Economy Class on SilkAir.
* Priority immigration. Fast track your way through selected airports.
From 1 June 2018
Solitaire re-qualification changes:
* Previous: get S$250k over 5 years, and keep with S$25k in a year (6 year reserve)
* New: spend S$50k in a year, and keep with S$50k in a year (3 year reserve)
Earn in a single calendar year:
* S$30,000 - 2x vouchers to earn 2x KF miles for a single segment
* S$40,000 - 50,000 miles redemption discount on your next award flight or upgrade
Other perks
* Non-expiry of miles. Now, your KrisFlyer miles will not expire as long as you remain a PPS Club member.
* Priority redemption. You will be given priority to Saver Awards flight availability.
* Preferred seating. Enjoy complimentary Preferred Seats when you fly in Premium Economy Class or Economy Class on Singapore Airlines, and Economy Class on SilkAir.
* Priority immigration. Fast track your way through selected airports.
From 1 June 2018
Solitaire re-qualification changes:
* Previous: get S$250k over 5 years, and keep with S$25k in a year (6 year reserve)
* New: spend S$50k in a year, and keep with S$50k in a year (3 year reserve)
Last edited by shuuy; Jun 1, 2017 at 10:36 pm
May 29, 2017, 11:50 pm
#2
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Seems mostly positive
- perks @ $30k and $40k (although small)
- "priority redemption" (we will see)
- easier to earn solitaire
However
- harder to keep solitaire (reads as if you need S$50k every year to keep it, despite previous reserve)
- wonder what else is out there?
- perks @ $30k and $40k (although small)
- "priority redemption" (we will see)
- easier to earn solitaire
However
- harder to keep solitaire (reads as if you need S$50k every year to keep it, despite previous reserve)
- wonder what else is out there?
May 30, 2017, 12:10 am
#3
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: Singapore
Programs: SIA Solitaire PPS, IHG Royal Amb, Hyatt Globalist, Bonvoy Gold, Hilton Hhonor Gold
Posts: 2,207
Changes are reflected in the website for details:
https://www.singaporeair.com/en_UK/s...psclub-changes
There are more perks now for Solitaire PPS members who fly frequently with significant reserve value. This include one advance upgrade cabin at point of booking.
https://www.singaporeair.com/en_UK/s...psclub-changes
There are more perks now for Solitaire PPS members who fly frequently with significant reserve value. This include one advance upgrade cabin at point of booking.
May 30, 2017, 12:14 am
#4
Join Date: Jul 2012
Programs: UA 1K, SPG Lifetime Gold
Posts: 32
@60k, 2x upgrade that clear at 48 hours prior to departure
@75k, 1x upgrade, confirmed at booking
@100K, 1x upgrade, confirmed at booking
sounds interesting, there was never any upgrade opportunities before. I suppose this can be used for business to suites upgrades? that will be amazing.
Wonder what are the expiration dates for these upgrades?
@75k, 1x upgrade, confirmed at booking
@100K, 1x upgrade, confirmed at booking
sounds interesting, there was never any upgrade opportunities before. I suppose this can be used for business to suites upgrades? that will be amazing.
Wonder what are the expiration dates for these upgrades?
May 30, 2017, 12:41 am
#5
Join Date: Jul 2015
Posts: 973
@60k, 2x upgrade that clear at 48 hours prior to departure
@75k, 1x upgrade, confirmed at booking
@100K, 1x upgrade, confirmed at booking
sounds interesting, there was never any upgrade opportunities before. I suppose this can be used for business to suites upgrades? that will be amazing.
Wonder what are the expiration dates for these upgrades?
@75k, 1x upgrade, confirmed at booking
@100K, 1x upgrade, confirmed at booking
sounds interesting, there was never any upgrade opportunities before. I suppose this can be used for business to suites upgrades? that will be amazing.
Wonder what are the expiration dates for these upgrades?
The expiration policy is linked on the page mentioned above.
Remains to be seen if they'll block J upgrades into the forthcoming A380 F product.
The 30k "perk" is hilarious.
Why not offer WiFi to Solitaire members? I can spend 100k a year and still have to fork out for internet access. Makes sense.
Doesn't look like they've clarified if the one cabin upgrades will come from the revenue bucket or from award inventory. I can't imagine it being the latter. Gonna be a bit busier in F after these changes.
May 30, 2017, 12:51 am
#6
Join Date: Jul 2012
Programs: UA 1K, SPG Lifetime Gold
Posts: 32
Agree, there is zero way it comes from revenue bucket. Almost certainly from award bucket.
So this will make award F hard, but award J easier? Since I assume you can apply the upgrade to an award J ticket?
So this will make award F hard, but award J easier? Since I assume you can apply the upgrade to an award J ticket?
May 30, 2017, 12:54 am
#7
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: BRU, SIN, PEK
Programs: SQ TPP, LH SEN
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It's a good thing I have a fair bit of reserve value stocked up - $50k a year to keep my Solitaire is doable but going to be more challenging, and means I can't change my role to a regional one ... LOL
Welcome the no expiry date of KF miles. I park a fair bit of miles with LH because of that.
Welcome the no expiry date of KF miles. I park a fair bit of miles with LH because of that.
May 30, 2017, 1:56 am
#8
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Singapore
Programs: SQ TPPS, BA Silver
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It's a good thing I have a fair bit of reserve value stocked up - $50k a year to keep my Solitaire is doable but going to be more challenging, and means I can't change my role to a regional one ... LOL
Welcome the no expiry date of KF miles. I park a fair bit of miles with LH because of that.
Welcome the no expiry date of KF miles. I park a fair bit of miles with LH because of that.
However if even for one year you drop out from TPP, then you'd have to requalify and renew under the new $50k per year scheme.
May 30, 2017, 3:38 am
#9
Join Date: Dec 2001
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May 31, 2017, 11:30 am
#11
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Jun 1, 2017, 1:16 am
#12
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Join Date: Nov 2003
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Well that was fast. Email today with the initial batch of earned milestone rewards. Validity is limited to one year from date reward is issued. Can be managed online or by phone.
Jun 1, 2017, 1:59 am
#13
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Asia
Programs: FB Platinum
Posts: 186
mirroring concerns voiced by other non-PPS members too. now that its 1 june, any data points for saver redemption priority? for e.g. award flight search showing only wait-list when not logged in, but shows availability once logged into PPS account
Jun 1, 2017, 3:10 am
#14
Join Date: Aug 2014
Location: Singapore
Programs: SQ TPPS, BA Silver
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Here you go. Random flight pair I searched for:
9 May 2018
SIN-LHR
PPS Account:
Non-PPS Account:
I'm sure there are more examples.
I also logged into a Solitaire account and it seems like they still get a leg up over QPPS for Economy Class redemption as they still can view the 'M' bucket fare.
9 May 2018
SIN-LHR
PPS Account:
Non-PPS Account:
I'm sure there are more examples.
I also logged into a Solitaire account and it seems like they still get a leg up over QPPS for Economy Class redemption as they still can view the 'M' bucket fare.
Jun 1, 2017, 3:51 am
#15
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: Asia
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Posts: 186
thanks! damn, thats awesome from a PPS member point of view. i see that for non-PPS, it was not even listed as available for wait-list but a straight 'Not available'. wonder what that means in terms of which bucket the priority awards are taken from.
its comforting, at least for now, to see that at least there are awards available for non-PPS, instead of a straight default wait list as feared.
its comforting, at least for now, to see that at least there are awards available for non-PPS, instead of a straight default wait list as feared.