New SQ regional J for the 787-10?
Apr 5, 2016, 6:49 pm
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New SQ regional J for the 787-10?
If I'm reading that right, that's a slightly different one than the longhaul version... and with an 8 hour flight radius planned, I really hope it's not TOO Different.
http://www.ausbt.com.au/singapore-ai...10-airbus-a350
http://www.ausbt.com.au/singapore-ai...10-airbus-a350
Apr 5, 2016, 7:20 pm
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If I'm reading that right, that's a slightly different one than the longhaul version... and with an 8 hour flight radius planned, I really hope it's not TOO Different.
http://www.ausbt.com.au/singapore-ai...10-airbus-a350
http://www.ausbt.com.au/singapore-ai...10-airbus-a350
Apr 5, 2016, 8:00 pm
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Interesting that SQ appears to be looking to a regional / medium-haul design as differentiated from long-haul – admittedly the longest medium-haul routes are to Australia's east coast at around 8 hours with overnight flights part of that, although many other regional flights would be a handful of hours.
Apr 5, 2016, 9:39 pm
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I sincerely hope it is going to a big upgrade from the current regional product on the A330s. That seat is torture (relatively speaking of course) on medium haul red-eyes to Australia or India.
Apr 5, 2016, 9:47 pm
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Totally agreed that any new regional J should be fully-flat, not a 'sloping sleeper'. I think most would expect that, unless Australia gets the standard A350s and the regionals are assigned to much shorter runs.
[Be interested to hear what SQ's longest and highest-frequency regional routes are, once you remove Australia from the list – TGflyergirl, any idea?]
The thing is: if a new regional J was fully-flat, then how else to substantially differentiate it from long-haul fully-flat J..?
And 'substantial' might be the key word here. Unless the design can bring down the per-seat cost or reduce the footprint to fit more pax in the same cabin space, then might not the economics of designing and producing a different seat for the regional fleet be outweighed by the savings and fleet simplification (including equipment swaps) of deploying the same long-haul J seat right across the A350-900 fleet?
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Apr 5, 2016, 11:05 pm
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True. For me though, the 8 hour "short run" is always followed by a 13 hour flight! I would think most Aussies are transiting Changi, so we are on true long haul trips!
Plus with Virgin and QF both offering proper lie-flat beds from SYD / MEL / BNE to PER on a ~5 hour point-to-point flight, the market expects that as standard. Hoping SQ keep pace with the market!
Plus with Virgin and QF both offering proper lie-flat beds from SYD / MEL / BNE to PER on a ~5 hour point-to-point flight, the market expects that as standard. Hoping SQ keep pace with the market!
Apr 6, 2016, 1:13 am
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I also agree that SIN-Australia is essentially long-haul and requires a long-haul product. Hopefully they won't introduce a very sub-standard product as they have on the A330 and retrofitted B777-200s/-300s.
Speaking of the future of Business Class, is anyone going to the SQ research session next week ?
Speaking of the future of Business Class, is anyone going to the SQ research session next week ?
Apr 7, 2016, 9:06 am
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Interesting that SQ appears to be looking to a regional / medium-haul design as differentiated from long-haul – admittedly the longest medium-haul routes are to Australia's east coast at around 8 hours with overnight flights part of that, although many other regional flights would be a handful of hours.