Last edit by: epigram
Flights confirmed by FTers as "low service" (catering officially known as "sleeper service"):
In F:
In J:
All of above +
In F:
- SQ218 MEL-SIN (dep 01.05 Oct-Mar, 00:05 Apr-Sep)
- SQ231 SIN-SYD (dep 00:45)
- SQ237 SIN-MEL (dep 23.45)
SQ636 SIN-HND (dep 22:35)- refer post #151 for March 2019 menu- SQ638 SIN-NRT (dep 23:55)
- SQ008 SIN-ICN (dep 02:45)
- SQ800 SIN-PEK (dep 01:10)
In J:
All of above +
- SQ255 SIN-BNE (dep 00:45)
- SQ246 BNE-SIN (dep 23:55)
- SQ608 SIN-ICN (dep 00:10)
- SQ618 SIN-KIX (dep 01:30)
- SQ656 SIN-FUK (dep 01:20)
- SQ672 SIN-NGO (dep 01:20)
SQ's "low service" First class offering.. now standard on overnight flights
#31
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Their website and marketing makes absolutely no mention of the severely limited service on certain flights. At least full disclosure would enable passengers to make their own choices and avoid unpleasant surprises.
#33
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I'm afraid I can't answer, but I have made the suggestion to SQ they need to alert pax on their website (when booking the flight and when making BTC selections) if a supper service applies.
Their website and marketing makes absolutely no mention of the severely limited service on certain flights. At least full disclosure would enable passengers to make their own choices and avoid unpleasant surprises.
Their website and marketing makes absolutely no mention of the severely limited service on certain flights. At least full disclosure would enable passengers to make their own choices and avoid unpleasant surprises.
#34
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This is SQ. Passengers must be kept guessing. That's why it refuses to commit any of its arriving flights to a terminal at Changi airport. At least not until just before it lands. This caught me out ~1 in every 5 or 6 flights on the LHR-SIN route as that was the approximate frequency of switching from T3 to T2.
#35
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What SQ is missing is that some people choose J & F class for the full experience, not just to sleep, whereas I am sure SQ decision makers think that who in their right mind would want two full meals on a 6-7 hr flight between midnight and 6-9am.... (and for flights like SQ218 MEL-SIN that connect from no-where, or if at all from more or less the same time zone, you generally don't have a cabin full of people with different body clocks.... in the other direction you do though),.
#37
Join Date: Apr 2014
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I completely agree as this is the nub of the issue. The ‘low key’ service offering represents a lesser in-flight experience (particularly in F) that I don’t believe is merited simply because of the time the flight departs.
#38
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On a flight of 7 hours, they should at least have a light meal available even If it's a cold cuts plate or continental breakfast.
Even if not, it should be clearer on their booking engine. If it says 1 meal and if the same price then a pax is free to decide for a different airline. I called once or twice to enquire but even the CSO had no clue and the answer in the end, looked like a pure guess.
Even if not, it should be clearer on their booking engine. If it says 1 meal and if the same price then a pax is free to decide for a different airline. I called once or twice to enquire but even the CSO had no clue and the answer in the end, looked like a pure guess.
#39
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What SQ is missing is that some people choose J & F class for the full experience, not just to sleep, whereas I am sure SQ decision makers think that who in their right mind would want two full meals on a 6-7 hr flight between midnight and 6-9am.... (and for flights like SQ218 MEL-SIN that connect from no-where, or if at all from more or less the same time zone, you generally don't have a cabin full of people with different body clocks.... in the other direction you do though),.
SQ should probably follow BAs example to more offensively announce that there is reduced meal service onboard on red-eyes (name it sleeper service or whatever) so that people know what to expect.
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#41
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Also remember that they have to balance the wishes of those wishing to get onboard and sleep as much as possible, with those who want a 9-course meal on a short overnight flight departing at midnight. It may well be the case that the numbers/proportion and commercial value of the former outweighed the latter.
#42
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Some people. Majority on the shorter Red-eyes tend to skip meals, at least that is my observation. And i'am sure that the decision makers have based their decision on the amount of meals ending in the rubbish bin after such flights.
SQ should probably follow BAs example to more offensively announce that there is reduced meal service onboard on red-eyes (name it sleeper service or whatever) so that people know what to expect.
SQ should probably follow BAs example to more offensively announce that there is reduced meal service onboard on red-eyes (name it sleeper service or whatever) so that people know what to expect.
It of course may not be an issue at SIN, where F pax can eat a full meal in the TPR preflight, but at outstations like MEL, where the F lounge is just a J lounge with less people, it could be an issue.
#43
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Offer a proper option for a pre-departure meal that can be taken at a reasonable time and I would be quite content going straight to sleep, well after a glass or two of champagne that is.
#44
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Another option would be, to handout vouchers for decent restaurant. The have done that in PVG for some time (maybe still?) even for business class passengers.
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We are flying late night from Delhi to SIN in first. No idea what to expect either onboard, or in the lounge. Would gladly (sort of) get something to eat earlier is nothing in lounge. Have tried searching but not found any reviews of SIN lounge in Delhi.