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Old Oct 31, 2014, 6:05 am
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I'm going to update this first post as more info flows in to create a 'master list' of all credit cards that offer a decent way of accruing miles - so please help out!

If you know of and/or use any other cards (or the ones already mentioned), please share your thoughts.

***ALL VALUES BELOW IN SINGAPORE DOLLARS (SGD)***
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In no particular order (apart from personal preference in terms of good-mileage opportunities):
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1. UOB PRVI Miles VISA, MasterCard, AMEX

VISA:
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...iles_visa.html
MasterCard:
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...astercard.html
Amex:
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...amex_card.html
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...ard/microsite/



Mileage accrual:
The earn rate will be 1.4 miles for every $1 spent in multiples of S$10 (every multiple of S$5 gives 6 to 7 miles due to 3.5 UNI$ rounding off, every S$10 gives 14 miles), and 2.4 miles for every $1 spent OVERSEAS (every $5 gives 12 miles).

Requirements: min. income $80,000 (not strict).
Cost: First year free, then S$256.80 for main, first two supplementary always free. Annual fee waiver for Amex card if you charge $50,000 or more in a year.
Miles conversion fee: $25 per conversion. UNI$ are combined in 1 cardholder's name/FIN Number/NRIC together for all UOB cards which earn UNI$.

Pros: Best mileage accrual rates for overseas spend only. 20,000 bonus miles and annual fee waiver with spend of $50,000 per year (both only for Amex card). $45 1-way airport transfer voucher for $1,000 overseas spend in a given quarter (Amex only).
Cons: AMEX not always accepted by merchants. Points allocated on every $5 spent, rounded down to next $5. Transfer in blocks of 5000 UNI$ points = 10,000 miles. Points are valid for 2 years (transfer before expiry and they will subsequently be valid for a further 3 years from the date of transfer to KrisFlyer).

2. UOB Preferred Platinum Visa


http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards..._platinum.html
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...visa_card.html


Mileage accrual: Earn 4 miles for every $1 spent using ONLY MOBILE CONTACTLESS every $5 gives 10 UNI$ which equal 20 miles). Same incredible mileage-earning ratio for internet shopping with certain restrictions (travel-related, utilities, etc.). Earn 0.4 mile for every $1 for regular, signature-based payments AND ORPHAN SPEND DUE TO $5 ROUNDING OR EXCEEDING THE BONUS U$2000 SPEND (every $5 gives 1 UNI$ which equal 2 miles).

Earning 4 miles/$ is limited to the first S$1110 spent during the per calendar month (via Mobile Contactless). 2,000UNI$ refers to the extra 9UNI$ and does not include the normal 1UNI$.(Stop when you notice you earn 3UNI$ (1 + bonus 2) for the last S$5 transaction. ($1110/5)x9=1998UNI$, hence the last S$5 transaction will earn 2 bonus UNI$. The total bonus UNI$ awarded to you from qualifying spend on Selected Online Transactions and Mobile Contactless Transactions is capped at UNI$2,000 for each calendar month. THE CAP IS ON THE 9 UNI$ BONUS NOT 10UNI$ TOTAL YOU GET WITH BASE OF U$1 PER $ SPEND

Keep in mind that some merchants offer different, non-mileage accruing awards with UOB cards which are called SMART$. Some popular merchants include Cold Storage, Guardian and Giant Supermarket, ToastBox and Starbucks. A full list of merchants where Mobile contactless transactions will NOT earn miles can be found here:
http://www.uob.com.sg/personal/cards...smartclub.html

Requirements: min. income $30,000 ($60,000 for foreigners).
Cost: First year free, then $192.60 for main and $96.30 for supplementary. Annual fee waived off easily.
Miles conversion fee: $25 per conversion, in blocks of 5000 UNI$=10,000 miles. UNI$ are combined in 1 cardholder's name for all UOB cards.

Pros: Incredible mileage accrual rates for Paywave transactions (not all merchants - some give SMART$ instead which are different rewards!) as well as internet transactions (some restrictions apply).
Cons: Points allocated on every $5 spent, rounded down to next $5. Transfer in blocks of 5000 UNI$ points = 10,000 miles. Points are valid for 2 years (transfer before expiry and they will subsequently be valid for a further 3 years from the date of transfer to KrisFlyer).

3. Citi PremierMiles MasterCard

https://www.citibank.com.sg/credit-cards/travel/premiermiles-card/?ecid=PSGONSGCCAENPM

Mileage accrual: Earn 1.2 miles for every $1 spent. Earn 2 miles for every $1 spent OVERSEAS. 10,000 bonus miles for each annual membership renewal.

Requirements: min. income $50,000 for VISA. Principal cardholder must be at least 21 years of age.
Cost: First year free, then $192.60 for VISA main, supplementary always free. Annual fee waiver available in exchange for forfeiting the 10,000renewal bonus.
Miles conversion fee: $25 per conversion.

Pros: Decent all-rounder, good for overseas spend. Points never expire. Bonus miles for annual card renewal. 11 frequent flyer programs & 3 hotel programs to choose from, including EVA Air - only 25,000 miles for 1 way Business Class within Asia!!
Cons: No miles awarded for EZ-Link & Transitlink transactions. Miles awarded per S$1. Cents not included. 1.2 miles/S$1. Transfer in blocks of 10,000 miles.

4. DBS Altitude VISA/AMEX

http://www.dbs.com/sg/personal/cards...e/default.aspx
http://www.dbs.com/sg/personal/cards...e/default.aspx



Mileage accrual: Earn 1.2 miles for every $1 spent (every $5 gives 3 DBS points which equal 6 miles). Earn 2 miles for every $1 spent OVERSEAS.

Requirements: min. income $80,000.
Cost: First year free, then $180 for main and $90 for supplementary. Annual fee waiver if you charge $25,000 or more in a year.
Miles conversion fee: S$26.75 per transfer, redeem 1700 DBS points to waive off.

Pros: Points never expire. No rounding down transaction amount to nearest $5 (calculation is done as follows: DBS points = 'transaction amount' divided by 5, multiply by 3, after that round down to nearest whole number. Minimum spend is S$1.67. Each DBS point = 2 miles). Earn 3 miles per S$1 spent on all online Flight and Hotel transactions (capped at S$5,000 per month). 10,000 miles renewal bonus if you have to pay card renewal fees.
Cons: All local spend now down to 1.2 miles/$ (since Dec 1, 2013). AMEX not always accepted by merchants. Transfer in blocks of 5000 DBS points = 10,000 miles (on the plus side points don't expire). Per transfer of S$26.75, redeem 1700 DBS points to waive off.

5. Maybank Horizon Platinum Visa

http://info.maybank2u.com.sg/persona...visa-card.aspx



Earn 3.2 air miles (8X TREATS Points) with every dollar spent on dining, petrol, taxi fares and hotel bookings at Agoda.com/horizon
Earn 2 air miles (5X TREATS Points) with every dollar spent on air tickets, travel packages and foreign currency transactions, with a minimal S$300 in a calendar month

Earn 0.4 mile for every $1 spent elsewhere (1 mile for every $2.50 spent).

Requirements: min. income $30,000 ($80,000 for foreigners).
Cost: $150 for main, supplementary always free. Unsure of any annual fee waiver conditions.
Miles conversion fee: In blocks of 5,000 points to 2000 Asia Miles or KrisFlyer. S$26.75 fee applies.

Pros: Great for ticket purchases and overseas spend. Complimentary access to selected VIP airport lounges when you charge a minimum of S$400 in a single transaction on air tickets or travel packages to your Card 3 months prior to the date of travel.
Cons: Great ONLY for ticket purchases and overseas spend. Points are valid for 1 year only, expire either on 30 June or 31 December of the same year if not Rewards Infinite member.

6. Singapore Airlines KrisFlyer Ascend AMEX

https://www.americanexpress.com/sg/s...nd-credit-card



Mileage accrual: Earn 1.2 KrisFlyer miles for every S$1 spent on all your eligible purchases with your Card

Earn 2 KrisFlyer miles for every S$1 equivalent in foreign currency spent overseas on eligible purchases during June and December

Requirements: min. income $50,000 ($60,000 for foreigners). Principal cardholder must be over 21 years of age.
Cost: First year free, otherwise $256.80 for main, 2 supplementary cards always free (more available at $80.25 each). Annual fee cannot be waived unless you spend alot.
Miles conversion fee: None - your KrisFlyer miles are transferred to your account directly with no conversion fees or charges.

Pros: None, except for welcome offers (4 complimentary airport lounge access vouchers, one complimentary night with Millennium Hotels and Resorts).

Cons: Simply nothing special - there are better cards available for all types of purchases, including flight tickets, even with all of the bonuses above applied. AMEX not always accepted by merchants.

7. Citibank Rewards Card

http://www.citibank.com.sg/gcb/credi...CACRENCCHOCALM



Earn 10X Rewards (10 Rewards Points or 4 Miles for every S$1 spent) when you shop for clothes, bags and shoes or at departmental stores or online shopping websites, including SingTel & M1 online bill payment!

Pros: Transfer to 11 FFPs & 3 Hotel programs in blocks of 25,000 points=10,000 miles; S$25 fee.

Cons: Points awarded per S$1 spend. Cents not included. Cannot combined Thank You Points across cards.

8. DBS Woman's World MasterCard® Card

http://www.dbs.com.sg/personal/cards...astercard-card



10X Rewards for Online Retail Purchases
T&C Here: https://www.dbs.com.sg/iwov-resource...s_card_tnc.pdf

Pros: Men also can get this card!! DBS points are combined in 1 cardholder's name. No rounding down transaction amount to nearest $5 (calculation is done as follows: DBS points = 'transaction amount' divided by 5, multiply by 10, after that round down to nearest whole number. Minimum spend is S$1. Each DBS point = 2 miles).

Cons: DBS points are valid for 1 year based on card anniversary date. The additional 9X DBS Points for online retail spend in a calendar month will be awarded on the 16th of the next calendar month. If the above days are not working days, the Points will be awarded on the next working day. The additional 9X DBS Points are only applicable to the first S$2,000 online retail spend every calendar month.

9. OCBC Titanium Rewards Card

https://www.ocbc.com/personal-bankin...astercard.html

10x OCBC$ on your shopping Local & Overseas Shopping Transactions, Local & Overseas Department Store Transactions and Local & Overseas Online Transactions.
The remaining 9 OCBC$ will be posted to the Card Account by the end of the next calendar month

https://www.ocbc.com/assets/pdf/card...ons.pdf?rand=1
10,000 KrisFlyer miles requires OCBC$ 25000, For each conversion of OCBC$ to KrisFlyer miles a fee of S$25 will be charged

10. UOB Lady's Card
https://www.uob.com.sg/personal/card...ard/index.page

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Old Nov 26, 2011, 7:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Archieflyer
Re: American Express Platinum Reserve Card

There used to be a 10+10 program for the PR, which would have made it worthwhile if you shopped at those places but that program is no longer running.

So, is this the best? If you are spending a lot at the 10 times merchants, eg. having a function at M Hotel. Even if you do, you might want to get the Platinum card instead & save some of the annual fee (Amex is notoriously difficult to get waiver on the first year's fee). If not, as you have surmised, there are better options.
There actually is still a 10+10 rewards programme but this is only for the Amex Platinum Card (charge, not credit).

Agree that for the Amex Platinum Reserve, it makes sense only if you frequent the merchants on the 10x list. I do dine at the Tung Lok chain quite a bit so the card has been useful to me. I received a waiver of the annual fee last year but this year, they refused to waive so I paid $300 but received 25k points in return (or 15,625 miles). Decent but no great shakes.

While the HSBC Infinite card sign up offer of 30k miles is attractive, the earn rate on the card is quite poor. For local spend, it is $1=1 mile which is less attractive than DBS Altitude (up to 1.6 miles) and Citi PremierMiles (1.2 miles). On top of this, there are no merchants to earn accelerated miles and HSBC has a very weak record of offering extra-points promotions.
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Old Nov 26, 2011, 7:51 pm
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Really?

They managed to waive platinum reserve annual fees for you?

I got sick of the no waiver rule and pulled the plug.
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Old Nov 26, 2011, 10:22 pm
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Originally Posted by chrispstan
While the HSBC Infinite card sign up offer of 30k miles is attractive, the earn rate on the card is quite poor. For local spend, it is $1=1 mile which is less attractive than DBS Altitude (up to 1.6 miles) and Citi PremierMiles (1.2 miles). On top of this, there are no merchants to earn accelerated miles and HSBC has a very weak record of offering extra-points promotions.
As an aside, the HSBC Infinite, I guess, gives you free limo rides to the airport as well as access to Jet Quay, which is a nice perk. However, I understand you need to spend $2,000 in the month of travel to qualify for the free limo, but am not sure if this is the case. I have HSBC Premier, and based on that they issued me an HSBC Travel Elite card for $90 annual fee (but they gave me 10,000 points for it) and that gives the same free limo rides plus Jet Quay access without the need to rack up the $2,000 per month charge. Also you can get free supplementary cards for family members, who will also get the free limo and Jet Quay access in their own name

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Old Nov 27, 2011, 3:20 am
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There is no need to charge 2000 sgd to qualify for the airport transfer. Just a transaction will suffice.
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Old Nov 28, 2011, 5:09 am
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The HSBC Travel Elite card ($90 annual fee) seems like a good alternative to their HSBC Infinite.

Has anyone tried their free limo rides? Do you have to book well in advance?

I must say JetQuay seems kind of tacky, especially since Changi is such a great and hassle-free airport anyway.
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Old Nov 28, 2011, 10:07 am
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Originally Posted by aster
The HSBC Travel Elite card ($90 annual fee) seems like a good alternative to their HSBC Infinite.

Has anyone tried their free limo rides? Do you have to book well in advance?

I must say JetQuay seems kind of tacky, especially since Changi is such a great and hassle-free airport anyway.
You need to book at least 24 hour in advance
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Old Nov 28, 2011, 10:53 pm
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Originally Posted by chrispstan
There actually is still a 10+10 rewards programme but this is only for the Amex Platinum Card (charge, not credit).

Agree that for the Amex Platinum Reserve, it makes sense only if you frequent the merchants on the 10x list. I do dine at the Tung Lok chain quite a bit so the card has been useful to me. I received a waiver of the annual fee last year but this year, they refused to waive so I paid $300 but received 25k points in return (or 15,625 miles). Decent but no great shakes.

While the HSBC Infinite card sign up offer of 30k miles is attractive, the earn rate on the card is quite poor. For local spend, it is $1=1 mile which is less attractive than DBS Altitude (up to 1.6 miles) and Citi PremierMiles (1.2 miles). On top of this, there are no merchants to earn accelerated miles and HSBC has a very weak record of offering extra-points promotions.
Are we talking about the Platinum (credit) or Platinum Reserve? The annual fee for the Platinum (credit) card is $300 but the Platinum Reserve is $500.

For overseas spend, it's 2 miles per $ which is pretty good. If you can rack up the spending ($75k per year), it goes to 2.5 miles per $ for the subsequent year (1.5 miles per $ for local spends). Anyway, to me, it's just a matter of getting the sign up miles and the Priority Pass card (for the rare occassion where the PP lounge is better than the *A lounge).

Originally Posted by tycosiao
Really?

They managed to waive platinum reserve annual fees for you?

I got sick of the no waiver rule and pulled the plug.
I think you'll find the 'rule' a lot more flexible these days, depending on your card usage. I've managed to get the fee on my Platinum (credit) card waived for the past 4 years.
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Old Nov 29, 2011, 3:22 am
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The DBS Altitute card now gives 2 points/$ on overseas spend, though when using the card abroad you are always hit with the currency exchange costs.
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Old Nov 29, 2011, 4:25 am
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I'm an American who moved to Singapore about 2 months ago and am still using my US cards (with no foreign transaction fees). However, Starhub won't take non-Singapore credit cards (at least online). I suppose I might run into this with other vendors as well. I will rarely use my Singapore based card since I get paid in the US in US$.

1) What would you recommend that earns some meager rewards with little to no fees?
2) Is there a way to pay for Starhub with a foreign card?
3) Any other way to pay Starhub and earn some miles?

I apologize as this is not KF related.
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Old Nov 29, 2011, 4:34 am
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Are you on a contract with Starhub that requires payment via a credit card, or can you use a debit card instead?

If a debit card is fine then you might want to get one of these: http://www.fevocard.com.sg/

As for racking up miles, only credit cards offer reasonable mileage accrual.
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Old Nov 29, 2011, 6:52 am
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Originally Posted by aster
The DBS Altitute card now gives 2 points/$ on overseas spend, though when using the card abroad you are always hit with the currency exchange costs.
That is a promotion running till end of year, and not exactly 2 miles/$. You get 0.4 miles /$ more, so if that month, you spend less than $1k, your overseas spend is only 1.6 miles/$.

HSBC Infinite's is permanent, regardless of spend.

Originally Posted by zakami
I'm an American who moved to Singapore about 2 months ago and am still using my US cards (with no foreign transaction fees). However, Starhub won't take non-Singapore credit cards (at least online). I suppose I might run into this with other vendors as well. I will rarely use my Singapore based card since I get paid in the US in US$.

1) What would you recommend that earns some meager rewards with little to no fees?
2) Is there a way to pay for Starhub with a foreign card?
3) Any other way to pay Starhub and earn some miles?

I apologize as this is not KF related.
As mentioned, you could use debit cards, which you can get from any of the banks by opening an account with them. However, debit cards here generally have no rewards.

Depending on your situation, you might want to get a local credit card anyway. From what some expats have shared, it makes sense to wire the money from US to Singapore to pay off local credit card bills (for Singapore transactions), as they have some control over the rates (transfer when the exchange rate is favorable) and it's much cheaper than paying credit card transaction fees.

Banks in Singapore are generally quite open to waiver of annual fees as long as you have a decent spending record. Do note that most of them will only transfer to KF miles (sometimes AsiaMiles).

If you intend to just have the one card, DBS Altitude Amex card is probably your best bet.
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Old Jan 14, 2012, 4:56 am
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New card in town!!

Maybank VISA Infinite!

By invitation only, call Maybank Singapore and someone will get in touch with you.

First year free, S$200,000 income, $1=3 points local n foreign charges (same as CitiPremiermiles), FREE transfer to KrisFlyer/ENRICH (Citibank charge you S$25), FREE Rewards Infinite membership, earn 10x points at certain merchants like EZ-Link, no expiry date for points, transfer in blocks of 500 Miles = 1250 points, round up for transactions >=$0.50 (Citi Premiermiles round down), FREE Priority Pass card.

Eg: For a charge of $9.50, Maybank VISA Infinite gives you 10x3=30 points = 12miles, Citi Premiermiles = 9x1.2 = 10.8miles!
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Old Jan 14, 2012, 7:56 am
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Originally Posted by vsepr
$1=3 points local n foreign charges (same as CitiPremiermiles)
Oh? I didn't know about that?
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Old Jan 15, 2012, 3:00 am
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Is the Citi Platinum card back as being the best card to use in supermarkets?
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Old Jan 15, 2012, 3:46 am
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What is the best "interest free" card out there to earn miles?
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