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Old May 25, 2024, 3:12 am
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BA390 to TFS return to LHR

Just been on BA390 to TFS and after an hour circling Winchester with our gear down we returned to LHR. 3 week old aircraft (G-TNED) and the gear wouldnt retract. Doh!
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Old May 25, 2024, 3:13 am
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Originally Posted by jacksprat
Just been on BA390 to TFS and after an hour circling Winchester with our gear down we returned to LHR. 3 week old aircraft (G-TNED) and the gear wouldnt retract. Doh!
but you got nice new seats???
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Old May 25, 2024, 3:17 am
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but you got nice new seats???
From 7am until 9:30am being on the aircraft I can confirm the seats are comfortable enough. No regular socket for charging, only USB in the seat in-front. But the USB-C port is 60W so enough for a regular laptop.

The new overhead bins being larger are a massive improvement. Loads and loads of space.

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Old May 25, 2024, 3:18 am
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Its not that the gear wouldn't retract thats the problem. Its if they managed to retract it, then it wouldn't extend. That would be a problem.
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Old May 25, 2024, 3:44 am
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Captain said it was an electronics failure with the gear control unit, so Im guessing theyve failed safe (i.e. down). Very tedious, but fun to be met by fire crews and the old bill on the tarmac.
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Ok I'll be the one to ask the classic FT question - would this be seen as a maintenance issue within BAs control and therefore eligible for EC261 comp (in addition to the mandatory duty of care liability)?
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Old May 25, 2024, 5:13 am
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Ok I'll be the one to ask the classic FT question - would this be seen as a maintenance issue within BAs control and therefore eligible for EC261 comp (in addition to the mandatory duty of care liability)?
Airbus issue I would have thought, hasn't been in service long enough to be a maintenance issue.
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Old May 25, 2024, 5:18 am
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Airbus issue I would have thought, hasn't been in service long enough to be a maintenance issue.
Regardless of whose issue it is, I think there's enough precedent in the courts etc to prove that mechanicals are covered by EC261. Historically this was something I was deadset against, for I feared a day when, under pressure to avoid a tech cancellation and a lot of EC261s, an engineer might sign a plane that shouldn't be signed, but facts have proved me wrong many, many, many times over.

On a side tangent, I would assume that a case like the one of that poor A350 stricken by the Virgin 787 wouldn't count for EC261 I suppose?
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Old May 25, 2024, 6:58 am
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6.5 hrs later boarded G-TNEC, but not going anywhere... Polar opposite interior of G-TNED as doesnt even have the middle seat tables in Club. Lets hope the landing gear works this time
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Old May 25, 2024, 10:39 am
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Originally Posted by jacksprat
Captain said it was an electronics failure with the gear control unit, so I’m guessing they’ve failed safe (i.e. down). Very tedious, but fun to be met by fire crews and the old bill on the tarmac.
Did they say…. ello, ello, ello, what do we have here then?

But actually being serious… why the police?
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Old May 25, 2024, 11:53 am
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Did they say…. ello, ello, ello, what do we have here then?

But actually being serious… why the police?
When there is an emergency landing at LHR there's a standard response with a long list of attendees. These will be staff who would be airside anyway at this point. Once it is clear they aren't needed then they will go away. But to give an example, if there was an emergency evacuation of the aircraft on to the apron it would be useful to have the police around to help with the process and keep things safe. I recall the recent Bermuda incident where a half hearted response led to inappropriate outcomes.
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Old May 25, 2024, 12:27 pm
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This would be a slam dunk EC261 I should think. BA might want to claim something back from Airbus, but it's a technical issue and so should be paid without quibble.
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Regardless of whose issue it is, I think there's enough precedent in the courts etc to prove that mechanicals are covered by EC261.
I'd assume BA would have no hesitation in paying out in this instance as they can get the money refunded from Airbus or a few tens of thousands knocked off the bill for their next aircraft.

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On a side tangent, I would assume that a case like the one of that poor A350 stricken by the Virgin 787 wouldn't count for EC261 I suppose?
In my opinion it should. I would expect BA to claim from whoever was at fault for all the costs associated with this incident, not just for the new bits. Everyone will have insurance to cover such things. I dread to think how much next year's premium will go up by though!
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