Can an "illegal" immigrant fly domestic with a picture ID?
Oct 14, 2006 | 4:34 pm
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Can an "illegal" immigrant fly domestic with a picture ID?
I have an actress friend who just landed a nice part on a TV sitcom and needs to fly to LA for a month or two for filming. They presently live in NY.
She has a part time nanny who would like to go with them and help out but does not have US citizen papers. In fact whatever papers she did have, may, we are not sure, be expired. She is from the Carribbean and does have a St. Lucia passport as well as a NY State non-driving picture ID.
Can she fly domestically from NY to LA with her NY picture ID without a fear of being arrested as an illegal at the airport?
She has a part time nanny who would like to go with them and help out but does not have US citizen papers. In fact whatever papers she did have, may, we are not sure, be expired. She is from the Carribbean and does have a St. Lucia passport as well as a NY State non-driving picture ID.
Can she fly domestically from NY to LA with her NY picture ID without a fear of being arrested as an illegal at the airport?
Oct 14, 2006 | 4:36 pm
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Originally Posted by david4455
I have an actress friend who just landed a nice part on a TV sitcom and needs to fly to LA for a month or two for filming. They presently live in NY.
She has a part time nanny who would like to go with them and help out but does not have US citizen papers. In fact whatever papers she did have, may, we are not sure, be expired. She is from the Carribbean and does have a St. Lucia passport as well as a NY State non-driving picture ID.
Can she fly domestically from NY to LA with her NY picture ID without a fear of being arrested as an illegal at the airport?
She has a part time nanny who would like to go with them and help out but does not have US citizen papers. In fact whatever papers she did have, may, we are not sure, be expired. She is from the Carribbean and does have a St. Lucia passport as well as a NY State non-driving picture ID.
Can she fly domestically from NY to LA with her NY picture ID without a fear of being arrested as an illegal at the airport?
Oct 14, 2006 | 4:37 pm
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Originally Posted by david4455
I have an actress friend who just landed a nice part on a TV sitcom and needs to fly to LA for a month or two for filming. They presently live in NY.
She has a part time nanny who would like to go with them and help out but does not have US citizen papers. In fact whatever papers she did have, may, we are not sure, be expired. She is from the Carribbean and does have a St. Lucia passport as well as a NY State non-driving picture ID.
Can she fly domestically from NY to LA with her NY picture ID without a fear of being arrested as an illegal at the airport?
She has a part time nanny who would like to go with them and help out but does not have US citizen papers. In fact whatever papers she did have, may, we are not sure, be expired. She is from the Carribbean and does have a St. Lucia passport as well as a NY State non-driving picture ID.
Can she fly domestically from NY to LA with her NY picture ID without a fear of being arrested as an illegal at the airport?
Oct 14, 2006 | 5:01 pm
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In my experience even flying through the southwest airports the only time you see "la migra" is when you go through customs. Domestic flights shouldn't be an issue at all. Though I've seen some Border Patrol people walking around but I'd say it's mostly for show and usually near international flight areas. Also, i'm not sure about other states, but in California non-ICE officials don't do anything related to immigration. If a LEO pulls somone over and find that they are illegal they can't do anything with regards to immigration status. That will change soon however with a supposed new law thats being put through legislation.
Oct 14, 2006 | 5:21 pm
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Originally Posted by Jaimito Cartero
There have been some threads on this before. A state issued ID should be okay, though. There is always a small chance that La Migra will be looking for people, but usually in the southwest, from what I've seen.
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Oct 15, 2006 | 11:56 am
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Originally Posted by Travellin' Fool
In my experience even flying through the southwest airports the only time you see "la migra" is when you go through customs. Domestic flights shouldn't be an issue at all.
Oct 15, 2006 | 1:34 pm
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I am a fully legal immigrant (green card, and b4 that H1B), and anyone would know I was not US-born and raised from my accent. In hundreds of domestic flights (mainly to/from SoCal airports) I have never, ever had any kind of question asked when I just showed my DL as photo ID. Also, when I moved to CA from WA I had a gap without a photo DL (CA DMV are incredibly slow), and used my passport as ID when flying, and nobody ever looked to check my visa. So, from my experience using either the NY ID or her passport world not cause any questions.
Oct 15, 2006 | 1:57 pm
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Originally Posted by KFinTX
In LRD, there are agents standing at a podium after security asking all passengers if they are US citizens, regardless of where their flight is going. I'm not sure if they do this at any other border airports, but they've done this at LRD since before 9/11.
Either LRD is part of the US or it's not, and so asking people to declare themselves as citizens or not is ridiculous when it comes to domestic flights. Also, US persons include more than just US citizens, both of whom should not be subject to this nonsense. Actually no one should be subject to "paper checks" by the government when it comes to domestic flights.
Oct 15, 2006 | 5:30 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
I had heard about this from someone here before but never been through it myself.
Either LRD is part of the US or it's not, and so asking people to declare themselves as citizens or not is ridiculous when it comes to domestic flights.
Either LRD is part of the US or it's not, and so asking people to declare themselves as citizens or not is ridiculous when it comes to domestic flights.
I grew up in the Valley & often flew out of MFE & NEVER was I asked about my citizenship before getting on a flight there.
Oct 15, 2006 | 7:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Travellin' Fool
In my experience even flying through the southwest airports the only time you see "la migra" is when you go through customs.
Funny thing is....the US Government is supposed to avoid racial profiling, but exactly 100% of the people that I saw being pulled aside by CBP at ELP were of Hispanic origin.
Point being, one is always at risk of exposure when dealing with such a high security place.
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Oct 15, 2006 | 9:06 pm
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Originally Posted by GUWonder
I had heard about this from someone here before but never been through it myself.
Either LRD is part of the US or it's not, and so asking people to declare themselves as citizens or not is ridiculous when it comes to domestic flights. Also, US persons include more than just US citizens, both of whom should not be subject to this nonsense. Actually no one should be subject to "paper checks" by the government when it comes to domestic flights.
Either LRD is part of the US or it's not, and so asking people to declare themselves as citizens or not is ridiculous when it comes to domestic flights. Also, US persons include more than just US citizens, both of whom should not be subject to this nonsense. Actually no one should be subject to "paper checks" by the government when it comes to domestic flights.
With all the pressure on illegal immigration, it's only going to get worse.
Oct 15, 2006 | 9:21 pm
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Originally Posted by theblakefish
I would use caution in applying that statement to all airports in the southwest US. Once upon a time (....until last week), I lived in ELP, and when you entered the security line at the airport, there is a CBP officer stationed there 24/7.
Oct 15, 2006 | 9:24 pm
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Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer
Well, don't ever drive from the Valley to San Antonio or points north. Just like the highway from San Diego to LA, there is a CBP inspection checkpoint about 20 mile inside the border on the Interstate. You must stop for inspection, US citizen or not...
Oct 15, 2006 | 9:45 pm
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Originally Posted by Global_Hi_Flyer
Well, don't ever drive from the Valley to San Antonio or points north. Just like the highway from San Diego to LA, there is a CBP inspection checkpoint about 20 mile inside the border on the Interstate. You must stop for inspection, US citizen or not.
With all the pressure on illegal immigration, it's only going to get worse.
With all the pressure on illegal immigration, it's only going to get worse.
If DHS/CBP/ICE did their job well in the first place we wouldn't have this issue in the way we do within the US. Instead DHS/CBP/ICE decide to do a lousy job within the US as well.
to this and the mission creep.Fortunately East Coast to LA flights don't generally have an immigration/law enforcement dragnet in play. (There are some exceptions for flights from So.Cal but not enough that plans need to be changed.)