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Information below is based on the fleet plan reported in the latest fleet update in the quarterly MD&A, (currently 2025-Q4 [English PDF]) with updates based on information from planespotters.net, press releases, and other sources. Please expand the "Spoilers" section that the bottom of the wiki to see latest updates. This spreadsheet contains data on AC's fleet back to 2005, and includes numerous charts that detail the evolution of various types in the fleet from then until the present.

22 April 2026
Information below is based on the fleet plan reported in the latest fleet update in the quarterly MD&A, (currently 2025-Q4 [English PDF]) with updates based on information from planespotters.net, press releases, and other sources. Please expand the "Spoilers" section that the bottom of the wiki to see latest updates. This spreadsheet contains data on AC's fleet back to 2005, and includes numerous charts that detail the evolution of various types in the fleet from then until the present.

22 April 2026
Spoiler
Air Canada Master Fleet Strategy Thread
#2416

Join Date: Aug 2023
Location: Canada
Programs: Aeroplan 25k
Posts: 171
#2417



Join Date: Apr 2000
Posts: 3,230
Given that Rouge MAXs will have basically the same interior as the current ML (yes, with fewer J seats) and the rest of mainline narrow-bodies following the trends with slimline seats and less pitch, will being 'Rouged' still mean anything significant going forward?
If this chart is accurate, flying on anything other than a C-Series sounds equally crappy all around.

If this chart is accurate, flying on anything other than a C-Series sounds equally crappy all around.

The A220s are now advertised with 30" pitch, although they haven't changed anything on those planes, so they maybe they have some 30" rows and some 31" rows?
#2418




Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: YOW
Programs: AC P(easant)25K
Posts: 1,247
Yes. Somebody here had shared an internal cad drawing, some rows are indeed have more pitch than the others usually +/- an inch, even seat width can be varied +/- 0.5" on some models.
#2419


Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: YHZ. Previously YYC
Posts: 1,953
2. For us in Halifax, i think there are only 2 or 3 options.
* The obvious move would be to Rouge YHZ to LHR and keep it as a Max Operation.
* Put it to A321ULR before the Maxes all leave the mainline fleet, though I suspect the route is too lean for a high number of biz seats, and the capacity may not be there for a daily flight.
* I'm guessing a A321 may just make it, or switch it to an A330 but again - too large for the market. (I dream about a 767 returning to the route with that lovely 2-3-2 config. (or was it 2-4-2)
* The obvious move would be to Rouge YHZ to LHR and keep it as a Max Operation.
* Put it to A321ULR before the Maxes all leave the mainline fleet, though I suspect the route is too lean for a high number of biz seats, and the capacity may not be there for a daily flight.
* I'm guessing a A321 may just make it, or switch it to an A330 but again - too large for the market. (I dream about a 767 returning to the route with that lovely 2-3-2 config. (or was it 2-4-2)
As for YHZ-LHR, I'm really hoping it doesn't get rouged but I think that's exactly what's going to happen. The J loads are usually always full on this route, so they'd lose some revenue there by rouging it but I don't see them putting the A321XL on that route nor the A330.
#2420
Join Date: Sep 2024
Location: YHZ
Programs: AC 35K, DL Silver, Bonvoy LT Platinum
Posts: 60
2. For us in Halifax, i think there are only 2 or 3 options.
* The obvious move would be to Rouge YHZ to LHR and keep it as a Max Operation.
* Put it to A321ULR before the Maxes all leave the mainline fleet, though I suspect the route is too lean for a high number of biz seats, and the capacity may not be there for a daily flight.
* I'm guessing a A321 may just make it, or switch it to an A330 but again - too large for the market. (I dream about a 767 returning to the route with that lovely 2-3-2 config. (or was it 2-4-2?)
* The obvious move would be to Rouge YHZ to LHR and keep it as a Max Operation.
* Put it to A321ULR before the Maxes all leave the mainline fleet, though I suspect the route is too lean for a high number of biz seats, and the capacity may not be there for a daily flight.
* I'm guessing a A321 may just make it, or switch it to an A330 but again - too large for the market. (I dream about a 767 returning to the route with that lovely 2-3-2 config. (or was it 2-4-2?)
As for YHZ-LHR, I'm really hoping it doesn't get rouged but I think that's exactly what's going to happen. The J loads are usually always full on this route, so they'd lose some revenue there by rouging it but I don't see them putting the A321XL on that route nor the A330.
“If you’re in a smaller airport where you have an obstacle at the end of the runway, or you have a short runway, or you have heat concerns, it starts to cut down the payload,” Galardo said. “That’s a concern, and that’s something I don’t think we factored in when we made the purchase decision.” That means some long routes (like Toronto-to-Prague and Toronto-to-Budapest) will work fine in the summer. So will other thin routes that Air Canada plans, such as Halifax-to-London and Montreal-to-Edinburgh. The XLR will replace 737 Max 8s on both sectors.
That being said,.. he could have been speaking out of turn, or they could very well have changed their strategy/direction since that interview.
. YHZ to and from YUL is mostly A220s running back and forth.Now, if you're talking about the rubbish PAL birds that we get to fly to and from YOW...
Last edited by miniborder; Feb 18, 2026 at 6:11 pm
#2421

Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 159
You're not wrong about Halifax getting all the crappy planes. It seems every single YYZ-YHZ-YYZ I take is on the old A321.
As for YHZ-LHR, I'm really hoping it doesn't get rouged but I think that's exactly what's going to happen. The J loads are usually always full on this route, so they'd lose some revenue there by rouging it but I don't see them putting the A321XL on that route nor the A330.
As for YHZ-LHR, I'm really hoping it doesn't get rouged but I think that's exactly what's going to happen. The J loads are usually always full on this route, so they'd lose some revenue there by rouging it but I don't see them putting the A321XL on that route nor the A330.
#2422


Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: YHZ. Previously YYC
Posts: 1,953
#2423




Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: Marriott LTT, AA LTG MM, AC 25K
Posts: 3,961
We recently flew this route and there is no lounge access without paying in YHZ. Fortunately had credits to burn. I wouldn't describe the meal as J class either and the second meal is the same as economy.
#2424
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC*SE 2MM
Posts: 18,379
Not sure you can use the CS100 v/v CS300 as an example. The CS300 has a higher MTOW 156k lbs vs. 139k lbs. In a simple stretch there is no expected increase in MTOW so a CS500 would not have the extra capacity for fuel and the extra weight of the stretch, the seats, the PAX and their luggage would remove fuel. The delta in range from a CS500 should be considerably more.
https://leehamnews.com/2026/02/19/ai...es-challenges/
#2425
Formerly known as tireman77
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 7,788
Leeham modeling suggests a 13% reduction in range for the -500 (but then the map they show indicates 2,900 nautical miles vs. 3,100nm - which is a much smaller 6.5% gap, so perhaps call it 2,700 nautical miles range...
https://leehamnews.com/2026/02/19/ai...es-challenges/
https://leehamnews.com/2026/02/19/ai...es-challenges/
The longest current route operated by a C Series is RIX-DXB, if correct, this represents 2.685mi (2,332nm) real world use. YUL-YVR is 1,995nm or roughly 15% less. It would seem that for real world use, a YUL-YVR use would pe possible, but perhaps not plausible year-round. And YUL-SFO/LAX out of contention.
Still not convinced this plane is right for AC and more of a get out of jail card for Airbus who wants to keep producing A321s so they can't sell anymore A320s for most customers
#2426
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC*SE 2MM
Posts: 18,379
At the end of the day it will come down to whether Airbus can produce and sell the thing for a price that is competitive with the MAX and A320 after taking into account superior operating economics. The challenge for them will be that it currently costs more to manufacture the 220 than the 320 and they have limited 220 capacity, so the -500 only makes sense if Airbus can use it as a strategy to free up room on the line to sell more A321's.
#2427
Formerly known as tireman77
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 7,788
I would beg to differ. The -500 could probably be deployed on 90%+ of AC's frequencies in North America. The outliers can be served by the MAX and 321XLR.
At the end of the day it will come down to whether Airbus can produce and sell the thing for a price that is competitive with the MAX and A320 after taking into account superior operating economics. The challenge for them will be that it currently costs more to manufacture the 220 than the 320 and they have limited 220 capacity, so the -500 only makes sense if Airbus can use it as a strategy to free up room on the line to sell more A321's.
At the end of the day it will come down to whether Airbus can produce and sell the thing for a price that is competitive with the MAX and A320 after taking into account superior operating economics. The challenge for them will be that it currently costs more to manufacture the 220 than the 320 and they have limited 220 capacity, so the -500 only makes sense if Airbus can use it as a strategy to free up room on the line to sell more A321's.
And this is from the guy who thinks the C-Series is the best plane in AC's narrow-body fleet. By a country mile.
#2428
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Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: YYZ
Programs: AC*SE 2MM
Posts: 18,379
In terms of why bother it is to get lower cost and better passenger experience on other busy routes like YUL/YYZ/YOW <-> YWG/YEG/YYC/ORD/DEN...
#2429


Join Date: Jun 2016
Programs: air miles
Posts: 450
So given that AC only flies the A220 in North America, range isn't a huge factor. What is a factor is how will the additional capacity of a 225 stretch fit into AC's fleet and will they be able to fill those additional seats at a profit.
According to ChatGPT Air Canada's top ten airports in terms of number of flights are YYZ, YUL, YVR, YYC, YOW, LGA, EWR, BOS, JFK, and LHR. All of these airport (with the exception of LHR) would benefit from the increased capacity of a 225
According to ChatGPT Air Canada's top ten airports in terms of number of flights are YYZ, YUL, YVR, YYC, YOW, LGA, EWR, BOS, JFK, and LHR. All of these airport (with the exception of LHR) would benefit from the increased capacity of a 225
#2430




Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: YOW
Programs: AC P(easant)25K
Posts: 1,247
Here we go again...
A220-500's lack of TCON range won't be a deal breaker if the intent is to replace their existing A320 fleet in circa 2030. -500 shares the same crew pool and hopefully the same for parts and maintenance (likely but not guaranteed), it's no different than buying more -300 if the potential revenue it can generate makes up the difference in the extra capex.
Some current AC A320 routes I could found at a glance;
Perfectly within range:
YVR-YLWY
VR-YYC
YVR-YEG
YVR-YWG
YVR-LAS
YVR-PSP
YVR-ORD
YUL-YWG
YUL-MIA
YOW-YYC
YYZ-YOW
YYZ-YUL
YYZ-YQB
YYZ-YHZ
YYZ-YYT
YYZ-YWG
YYZ-YQR
YYZ-YYC
YYZ-YEG
YYZ-YMM
YYZ-LGA
YYZ-PBI
Stretching the limit but probably okay:
YVR-IAH
Probably out of range:
YYZ-YVR (Plenty of XLR available to fly this route in the future)
YYZ-YYJ (Seems like an A220-300 sized route)
YYZ-LAX (Plenty of XLR available to fly this route in the future)
YWG-CUN (Should be flown by Rouge anyway)
The question we should be asking isn't the range. It's if AC need to fill the gap between A220-300 and MAX/A321.
I certainly see the extra 4 Business class seat on the -500 would be helpful on some days and time between YYZ-YOW.
A220-500's lack of TCON range won't be a deal breaker if the intent is to replace their existing A320 fleet in circa 2030. -500 shares the same crew pool and hopefully the same for parts and maintenance (likely but not guaranteed), it's no different than buying more -300 if the potential revenue it can generate makes up the difference in the extra capex.
Some current AC A320 routes I could found at a glance;
Perfectly within range:
YVR-YLWY
VR-YYC
YVR-YEG
YVR-YWG
YVR-LAS
YVR-PSP
YVR-ORD
YUL-YWG
YUL-MIA
YOW-YYC
YYZ-YOW
YYZ-YUL
YYZ-YQB
YYZ-YHZ
YYZ-YYT
YYZ-YWG
YYZ-YQR
YYZ-YYC
YYZ-YEG
YYZ-YMM
YYZ-LGA
YYZ-PBI
Stretching the limit but probably okay:
YVR-IAH
Probably out of range:
YYZ-YVR (Plenty of XLR available to fly this route in the future)
YYZ-YYJ (Seems like an A220-300 sized route)
YYZ-LAX (Plenty of XLR available to fly this route in the future)
YWG-CUN (Should be flown by Rouge anyway)
The question we should be asking isn't the range. It's if AC need to fill the gap between A220-300 and MAX/A321.
I certainly see the extra 4 Business class seat on the -500 would be helpful on some days and time between YYZ-YOW.



