Flying Blue FAQ
Jan 31, 2026 | 3:17 am
#2461
Join Date: Jan 2024
Posts: 216
Miles are based on the fare plus carrier surcharges (and your status at the time of the flight). XP are based on class of service, if the flight is domestic, and the length (only relevant if the flight is international (with a couple of edge cases that might be surprising)).
For the trip posted, it looks like you booked Business for EDI-NCE, paying (excluding taxes) 502 euro (assuming you had no status and Economy for NCE-EDI paying 502 euro also (if you, for instance became Silver after the flight to NCE, the return flight perhaps only cost 335 euro).
For the XP, EDI-CDG is international (short band) and in business, so 15 XP. CDG-NCE is domestic and in business, so 6 XP. NCE-CDG is domestic and in economy, so 2 XP. CDG-EDI is international (short band) and in economy, so 5 XP.
For the trip posted, it looks like you booked Business for EDI-NCE, paying (excluding taxes) 502 euro (assuming you had no status and Economy for NCE-EDI paying 502 euro also (if you, for instance became Silver after the flight to NCE, the return flight perhaps only cost 335 euro).
For the XP, EDI-CDG is international (short band) and in business, so 15 XP. CDG-NCE is domestic and in business, so 6 XP. NCE-CDG is domestic and in economy, so 2 XP. CDG-EDI is international (short band) and in economy, so 5 XP.
Jan 31, 2026 | 7:27 am
#2464
Join Date: Apr 2005
Programs: Eurostar Carte Etoile, SBB-CFF-FFS GA-AG, SNCF Grand Voyageur LeClub
Posts: 8,958
I let our Dutch friends explain things in more detail but if I remember correctly Curacao is a separate country in the Kingdom, but Bonaire for instance is in the same country as AMS.
Reminds of a long-winded discussion many years ago where I managed to convince FB to issue a Moscow-Petropavlovsk Kamchatsky award ticket at the European domestic Business Class rate, for a 9 hour flight on a B777-300ER
Jan 31, 2026 | 9:05 am
#2465
Join Date: Oct 2019
Programs: Flying Blue, Hilton Honors, Amtrak Guest Rewards
Posts: 3,634
USA-SJU is especially weird: it's international for Flying Blue XP purposes, but domestic for Elite Plus lounge purposes (to be fair, USA-AUA would likewise be international for XP but domestic (or at least not international I guess: it might fall in the cracks...) for lounge access).
Jan 31, 2026 | 10:27 am
#2466
Join Date: May 2009
Location: AMS
Posts: 2,558
Curaao, Aruba and and St. Maarten (Dutch side) are consituent countries of the Kingdom of the Netherlands, meaning they are different countries that have the same head of state but are otherwise mostly self-governing.
So yes a flight from AMS to BON is technically domestic, but thankfully KLM considers it long-haul. AMS-CUR is a bit more muddy because while it is a separate country, a similar situation exists if I were to fly from say GLA to LHR (Scotland to England) and that is definitely considered domestic. Though again KLM considers it long-haul due to the sheer distance involved so the point is kind of moot.
Jan 31, 2026 | 10:36 am
#2467
Join Date: Apr 2020
Location: LIT
Programs: AF-KLM Platinum / Marriott Platinum
Posts: 749
Jan 31, 2026 | 10:54 am
#2468
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: VIE
Programs: AFKL Platinum, SAS EBG (STE+), TK Elite (*G), Hilton Diamond, IHG Diamond
Posts: 7,338
The status of most French overseas territories is very different from the situation in Kingdom of Netherlands, especially those like Reunion which are part of the EU.
Jan 31, 2026 | 2:27 pm
#2469
Join Date: Oct 2019
Programs: Flying Blue, Hilton Honors, Amtrak Guest Rewards
Posts: 3,634
RUN is not an edge case in any way, it is an integral part of France, and it's not a separate country by any metric other than FB XP earning The status of most French overseas territories is very different from the situation in Kingdom of Netherlands, especially those like Reunion which are part of the EU.
The status of most French overseas territories is very different from the situation in Kingdom of Netherlands, especially those like Reunion which are part of the EU.
Feb 2, 2026 | 7:41 am
#2470
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: London, UK
Programs: BA(E)C GGL Refugee / FB Platinum / MM Senator
Posts: 1,632
Feb 2, 2026 | 11:43 am
#2472
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: YHM (BUF/YYZ/YTZ in practice, formerly LHR)
Programs: rapidly diminishing
Posts: 993
I am considering booking a flight that will cost 8.5k miles + €20 (and refundable at a €70 fee, as I am a mere FB Explorer).
If I had to cancel, would I actually be charged the €50 difference?
Or would I just lose the €20 that I have already paid (like BA Avios)?
I am hoping it's #2, but wanted to double-check as I do not have much experience with FB.
Thanks/Merci/Dank u wel!
If I had to cancel, would I actually be charged the €50 difference?
Or would I just lose the €20 that I have already paid (like BA Avios)?
I am hoping it's #2, but wanted to double-check as I do not have much experience with FB.
Thanks/Merci/Dank u wel!
Feb 3, 2026 | 4:20 am
#2474
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: London
Programs: Hilton, IHG - BA, GA, LH, QR, SV, TK
Posts: 18,280
Assuming that you get the soft landing, then you will lose everything under 300XP no matter if it's 25XP or 250XP. To get a bit of carryover you'd need to work your way through the 149 gap (your better half is right - they always are), and only what's between 300-600 will be carried over. It doesn't seem like a very attractive proposition so in that case I'd wait for your renewal period to start doing MRs.
Assuming that you don't get the soft landing, then trying to hit 180XP before your end of renewal is indeed the smart way to go as you'll only require 300 to qualify for plat as opposed to 480.
Assuming that you don't get the soft landing, then trying to hit 180XP before your end of renewal is indeed the smart way to go as you'll only require 300 to qualify for plat as opposed to 480.