Goldorak

WeFly

Thank you for the answer!

San Gottardo

deleted, found the answer myself

Marcus28

Is my understanding correct that, as a FB plat, I will not gain any XP/miles flying AZ 113 (AZ metal), but I do get priority/lounge access?

glennhaak

Why wouldn't you be earning XP/miles?

https://www.flyingblue.nl/en/partner...a/presentation

Marcus28

Thanks - I thought so in view of the double negative included in the statement on their website (which does not include the flight no. AZ113; AMS>LIN):

Fabo.sk

I don't see a double negative - earning isn't possible on flights in that range - which AZ113 is not in.
If you mean "Tickets with a booking class not mentioned in the scheme below", then that does not refer to the flight numbers, but a booking class other than in the earnings table (i.e. "Z")

CyBeR

The double negative doesn't pertain to the flight numbers, and those flight numbers are those of non-skyteam codeshares. For example, AZ2751 is an Air Berlin flight. Every regular AZ-coded SkyTeam-operated flight is miles and XP-eligible.

Marcus28

Thanks guys - that makes sense.

Concerto

This is surely something I should know, but as FB Gold can I check a bag for free if I select an Economy Light fare? On *alliance this is not the case and bags have to paid for separately.

It just says "Extra check-in baggage allowance on SkyTeam flights" on the FB site. I would be looking at an itinerary with AF and UX as well.

Solevita

The extra bag (on any fare) is an Elite benefit across the alliance so as Gold you also get it. I've encountered Alitalia checkin agents that seem completely unaware of the fact though and insist on charging for the bag - so far solved by geting a more knowledgeable agent or supervisor...

Concerto

Thanks Solevita, so that means I can check in a bag on a Light fare, which is incredibly useful. You certainly don't get that with Lufthansa Group. This is why I prefer Skyteam, it has much more consistent benefits.

Concerto

Not strictly Flying Blue related, but I don't know where else to post to get a quick answer. I got my knickers in a bit of a twist today while booking an AF itinerary (DUS-CDG-MAD and vv) for my friend. She is subscribed to the AirEuropa SUMA programme and I realized later this evening that X-class earns no miles and therefore no segments in the SUMA programme (according to wheretocredit.com). The Air France call centre in France couldn't help, because the ticket had been booked on the German version of the site (I started on airfrance.fr, but it must have defaulted over to the German site, which makes sense I suppose).

Ideally, what I would like to do is cancel it and rebook it in the next available class up, which is V-class according to the call centre agent (they can't change the underlying booking class). This has to be done at the German call centre, but they already closed at 20h00 and it is impossible to cancel it online. How does the 24 hour cancellation policy really work? According to the French call centre, you have only until the end of the same day it was booked, not 24 hours. I really thought we had 24 hours in which to cancel for free and I thought this was very much the case in Germany (done it with LH and LX). I had a similar issue with AirEuropa earlier this year, so maybe the Latin countries have a different rule.

Any experiences with 24 hour cancellations? Of course, I myself am flying on the same itinerary, but crediting to Flying Blue, which is the only SkyTeam FFP which accepts X-class ... if wheretocredit is really right. I actually thought this was an award class normally.

Ditto

X class used to be award bookings but now it's also for revenue tickets which makes me wonder if wheretocredit is really updated, anyway you could use the refund form on their website for it - https://www.airfrance.de/cgi-bin/AF/...-remboursement or the KLM refund system - https://refunds.klm.com/rps/Forms/frmMain.aspx

Concerto

Actually, I'm scared to touch those forms (the KLM one rejects a 057 ticket number). On Sunday night at 22h I clicked through shoop.de (cashback portal) to make the reservation and I noticed this afternoon that the transaction had not gone through and the ticket hadn't been issued. So I called AF and the helpful agent took my card details again and issued the tickets. So does that mean the 24h period would count as from 22h on Sunday night, or 15h on Monday? I suspect the transaction possibly originally didn't go through because I clicked through a cashback portal. If the 24h period started at 22h on Sunday, then I would lose the ticket totally, which would be silly.

It's a lesson, though, that we still need to be careful with this question of booking classes. Earlier this year I got suckerpunched by a business class fare on AirEuropa which booked into U-class which doesn't earn in Flying Blue, or didn't then. Luckily it was booked through an OTA, opodo, and they changed it into an eligible booking class ... for a price of course. But at least I didn't lose out totally.

BTW X-class doesn't earn anything with anybody, according to wheretocredit, except Flying Blue. The AirEuropa SUMA site is awful, no info for Air France whatsoever.