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Old Jan 2, 2026 | 7:55 am
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Originally Posted by PES_B1
When will the 789s actually fly with more than 4 seats in J? Flying a bunch of 789s with 24 J blocked is likely worse than flying 343s.
Lufthansa seems to be confident that the saga of the 787-9 seat certification will see its grand ending before May. It has made all 28 seats of the Allegris cabin on 787-9 flights available for sale from May 01 onwards. In the mean time, we should also get a clearer picture of what the 5-class 747-8 is going to look like. I suggest we all stock up on popcorn for that one.
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Old Jan 2, 2026 | 1:22 pm
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Originally Posted by HB-IWC
In the mean time, we should also get a clearer picture of what the 5-class 747-8 is going to look like. I suggest we all stock up on popcorn for that one.
With Allegris that's more like 10-class 747-8, isn't it? 😂
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Old Jan 5, 2026 | 8:16 am
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Originally Posted by chris63
You might have a long wait if he has any sense
Him having any sense is not what I would count on
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Old Jan 6, 2026 | 10:35 am
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Spohr expects that 2026 will see the reopening of Russian airspace:

"CEO Carsten Spohr told Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung that Asia, particularly China, will drive growth after hoped-for opening of Russian airspace to all, emphasizing the airline's strategic focus on long-haul aircraft and direct Asia routes, though he provided no details on the basis for this optimism"

Between Allegris, the 777-9 deliveries and Russia airspace, Spohr's hope certainly does spring eternal.
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Old Jan 6, 2026 | 11:26 am
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Originally Posted by HB-IWC
Spohr expects that 2026 will see the reopening of Russian airspace:

https://x.com/polidemitolog/status/2...117509206?s=20"CEO Carsten Spohr told Frankfurter Allgemeine Zeitung that Asia, particularly China, will drive growth after hoped-for opening of Russian airspace to all, emphasizing the airline's strategic focus on long-haul aircraft and direct Asia routes, though he provided no details on the basis for this optimism"

Between Allegris, the 777-9 deliveries and Russia airspace, Spohr's hope certainly does spring eternal.
Hilarious. Let's place bets on what comes first. I would put my money on the B779 arriving before Russian airspace opens up again.
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Old Jan 7, 2026 | 4:27 am
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Aero.de reports LH is working on a single order number combining booking and ticket numbers (cooperation with Amadeus)

https://www.aero.de/news-51554/Lufth...ummern-ab.html
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Old Jan 7, 2026 | 6:44 am
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Originally Posted by HB-IWC;37521226
after hoped-for opening of Russian airspace to all, emphasizing the airline's strategic focus on long-haul aircraft and direct Asia routes
Seems distinctly possible that, whatever happens over Russia, airspace over Greenland could soon be more of an issue😂
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Old Jan 7, 2026 | 7:13 am
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I expect that 2026 will see opening of CEO position at Lufthansa Group. I will however provide no details on the basis for this optimism.
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Old Jan 7, 2026 | 7:39 am
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The supervisory board seems to be pretty happy with CS but are concerned the LHG unification is not radical enough:

https://www.handelsblatt.com/unterne...100178754.html
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Old Jan 7, 2026 | 8:10 am
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Originally Posted by oliver2002
The supervisory board seems to be pretty happy with CS but are concerned the LHG unification is not radical enough:

https://www.handelsblatt.com/unterne...100178754.html
I find the claims of rising morale highly questionable given the current industrial relations climate. Spohr is effectively at war with the unions by utilizing various new subsidiaries explicitly designed to lower operating costs.
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Old Jan 7, 2026 | 11:57 pm
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Between the claim of rising morale and the prediction of the imminent opening of Russian air space, whatever optimism booster Spohr is smoking, it is time to share!
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Old Jan 8, 2026 | 3:02 am
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Originally Posted by PES_B1
I find the claims of rising morale highly questionable given the current industrial relations climate. Spohr is effectively at war with the unions by utilizing various new subsidiaries explicitly designed to lower operating costs.
I find it questionable to derive significantly increased morale from the metrics stated in the article: The index quoted rose from 3.6 during the pandemic to 3.9 in 2025 - that's merely an increase by 8%. I am admittedly not too well versed in HR metrics, but 8% doesn't sound much to me.
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Old Jan 30, 2026 | 7:39 am
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Originally Posted by HB-IWC
https://aviation.direct/en/Berlin-de...tes-in-Germany

The German Government is entertaining the idea of giving Emirates the rights to fly to Berlin and Stuttgart. I would imagine Lufthansa having something to say about that.
Following up on this, Emirates is bound to start Berlin flights by the end of the year with one daily B77W:

https://www.aero.de/news-51749/Emira...cke-durch.html

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...es-of-lobbying

If LH lobbied against this at all, it doesn't seem to have worked. EK will have a second flight on no time.
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Old Jan 30, 2026 | 8:03 am
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Originally Posted by HB-IWC
Following up on this, Emirates is bound to start Berlin flights by the end of the year with one daily B77W:

https://www.aero.de/news-51749/Emira...cke-durch.html

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...es-of-lobbying

If LH lobbied against this at all, it doesn't seem to have worked. EK will have a second flight on no time.
I welcome every competition against which they have to prove themselves,
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Old Jan 30, 2026 | 8:54 am
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Originally Posted by sw1x
I welcome every competition against which they have to prove themselves,
LHG & EK hard & soft product are on different planets, LHG being light years behind
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