Delta CEO: Low-cost travel partly to blame for loss of civility
Jan 2, 2026 | 11:03 am
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My most recent business class experience was somewhat ruined by a mother who brought two toddlers with her on a 10+ hour flight. She booked 2 seats in a 3-across middle section in the center of business class on a TK 777 with the second child as a lap child. The toddlers were ill behaved at the gate, during boarding, and for the entirety of the flight. The FAs tried to work with them during boarding but the kids were screaming and running around nonetheless.
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If airline executives want to bring civility back they should ban toddlers from business class cabins.
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If airline executives want to bring civility back they should ban toddlers from business class cabins.
Im nearing the end of a 14-hour EWR-JNB in business class. A 2-month baby across the aisle has been crying loudly the entire flight. The mom is trying. The FAs are pitching in walking and bouncing the baby.
A 14-hour overnight flight and even with wax earplugs and the UA noise canceling headset on the baby is loud enough to deny sleep.
Its screaming as I type this.
This is NOT a business class experience. This is hell.
A 14-hour overnight flight and even with wax earplugs and the UA noise canceling headset on the baby is loud enough to deny sleep.
Its screaming as I type this.
This is NOT a business class experience. This is hell.
Why do you hate an un-bad child?
Jan 3, 2026 | 4:09 am
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Im nearing the end of a 14-hour EWR-JNB in business class. A 2-month baby across the aisle has been crying loudly the entire flight. The mom is trying. The FAs are pitching in walking and bouncing the baby. . . .
Its screaming as I type this.
This is NOT a business class experience. This is hell.
Its screaming as I type this.
This is NOT a business class experience. This is hell.
Experienced travelers know the trick of giving a "yawn" and clearing one's ears to equalize the pressure. Infants cannot understand any such explanation.
When our sons were infants, Mrs. SPN Lifer used to nurse them starting at 10,000 feet. Bottle feeding would work, too.
Infantile creaming or crying may not be as effective as swallowing.
Jan 4, 2026 | 4:56 am
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Why do you hate an un-bad child?
Jan 4, 2026 | 5:43 pm
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Meanwhile, the screaming guaguas aren't part of the "loss of civility" discussion. Annoying as all can be (and yes, I heard young children noise even in EK F). It is more the entitiled disrespectful chanchos of all ages, status and class irrelevant, that have a prividge that we'll never know of - their poopoodoodookakak don't stink, at least not to them. As we're being gassed out by their behavio(u)r. It only takes 1 percent of the passengers to ruin everyone's travel experience. WN, when it was really a LCC, didn't ruin it. Nor did "Song" nor "Shuttle, by United." "Reality media" made it all ok. Even attorneys in some locales think the process is a TV show.
Jan 4, 2026 | 5:44 pm
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Jan 17, 2026 | 7:38 pm
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Give gate agents the authority to refuse boarding to anyone who reeks of booze and slurs their words.