Delta AI Ticket Pricing Upon Us
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I wouldn't really count on senior DL execs having all that strong of understanding of how it all works. The same for the journalists and politicians who have been commenting on it. As linked above, the Fetcherr site itself has a pretty decent overview on the technology.
https://www.fetcherr.io/blog/dynamic...ng-in-aviation
https://www.fetcherr.io/blog/dynamic...ng-in-aviation
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Was showing an older friend how to book a DL ticket online. I had my device and he had his. As I walked him through how to do it, my price kept coming up HIGHER on my device than his!! I was signed in; he was not. Even when going back and re-doing the booking my price was higher! Neither of us "bought" a ticket, we were just "shopping!"
So, it does happen that, probably because I'm a "regular" with status that I'm getting a higher fare--THIS JUST ISN'T FAIR!!! AI is discriminating!!!
So, it does happen that, probably because I'm a "regular" with status that I'm getting a higher fare--THIS JUST ISN'T FAIR!!! AI is discriminating!!!
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Was showing an older friend how to book a DL ticket online. I had my device and he had his. As I walked him through how to do it, my price kept coming up HIGHER on my device than his!! I was signed in; he was not. Even when going back and re-doing the booking my price was higher! Neither of us "bought" a ticket, we were just "shopping!"
So, it does happen that, probably because I'm a "regular" with status that I'm getting a higher fare--THIS JUST ISN'T FAIR!!! AI is discriminating!!!
So, it does happen that, probably because I'm a "regular" with status that I'm getting a higher fare--THIS JUST ISN'T FAIR!!! AI is discriminating!!!
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Was showing an older friend how to book a DL ticket online. I had my device and he had his. As I walked him through how to do it, my price kept coming up HIGHER on my device than his!! I was signed in; he was not. Even when going back and re-doing the booking my price was higher! Neither of us "bought" a ticket, we were just "shopping!"
So, it does happen that, probably because I'm a "regular" with status that I'm getting a higher fare--THIS JUST ISN'T FAIR!!! AI is discriminating!!!
So, it does happen that, probably because I'm a "regular" with status that I'm getting a higher fare--THIS JUST ISN'T FAIR!!! AI is discriminating!!!
It's most likely that he was seeing outdated fare buckets that no longer existed. It is an issue (from a bait and switch perspective) but there is no evidence that Delta is doing individualized pricing today (at least for outright ticket purchases... obviously there is substantial evidence that they do individualized pricing for upgrade offers).
If OP is sure of his observation, share it with Congress folks who wrote the letter to DL.
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Yes, we were back and forth with the various options a number of times and the price differential continued.
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I am not defending Delta here (because either way this is bad practice), but the reality is that you and your older friend were likely hitting two different cache servers (or even cache keys on the same server).
Going through to the final payment page (and certainly doing the actual payment) triggers a validation of available fare inventory. There's a 99% chance that it would have said "Oops, this fare is no longer available." Again, this is an issue from a bait and switch perspective, but it is probably not individual pricing.
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Well, if this ever happens again, go through the purchase process entirely and see if it actually lets you complete the transaction... and then share the results. You can then immediately cancel for a refund to your form of payment under the DOT-mandated 24 hour refund rule.
I am not defending Delta here (because either way this is bad practice), but the reality is that you and your older friend were likely hitting two different cache servers (or even cache keys on the same server).
Going through to the final payment page (and certainly doing the actual payment) triggers a validation of available fare inventory. There's a 99% chance that it would have said "Oops, this fare is no longer available." Again, this is an issue from a bait and switch perspective, but it is probably not individual pricing.
I am not defending Delta here (because either way this is bad practice), but the reality is that you and your older friend were likely hitting two different cache servers (or even cache keys on the same server).
Going through to the final payment page (and certainly doing the actual payment) triggers a validation of available fare inventory. There's a 99% chance that it would have said "Oops, this fare is no longer available." Again, this is an issue from a bait and switch perspective, but it is probably not individual pricing.
One issue I've increasingly run into is Delta.com not "playing nice" unless I'm logged in on some browsers.
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Was showing an older friend how to book a DL ticket online. I had my device and he had his. As I walked him through how to do it, my price kept coming up HIGHER on my device than his!! I was signed in; he was not. Even when going back and re-doing the booking my price was higher! Neither of us "bought" a ticket, we were just "shopping!"
So, it does happen that, probably because I'm a "regular" with status that I'm getting a higher fare--THIS JUST ISN'T FAIR!!! AI is discriminating!!!
So, it does happen that, probably because I'm a "regular" with status that I'm getting a higher fare--THIS JUST ISN'T FAIR!!! AI is discriminating!!!
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The obvious question here is why aren't there more reports if this is actually happening on any sort of regular basis? I've been using Google Flights to price DL/Skyteam flights for years now and generally only bring up fares on delta.com when I'm looking to purchase (as I suspect many here do as well). Even when I'm using a companion cert, I first start at Google Flights to get an idea which flights/dates have the best fares. You'd think if this were actually happening there'd be more reports of prices not matching what's showing on Google Flights once you login to your account to purchase. There are also all the OTAs out there where you can do anonymous pricing.
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Wouldn't that produce the described results only if the second person was to search first during each iteration of the experiment?
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It's most likely that he was seeing outdated fare buckets that no longer existed. It is an issue (from a bait and switch perspective) but there is no evidence that Delta is doing individualized pricing today (at least for outright ticket purchases... obviously there is substantial evidence that they do individualized pricing for upgrade offers).


