Finnair Points Calculator
#61




Join Date: Jun 2022
Posts: 230
Been a while since I worked on this, but I've recently pushed an update to the underlying infrastructure. This shouldn't have any visible impact apart from making the website faster, but do let me know if any issues appeared.
Also thinking about how to handle the AY switch to Avios next year. Playing around with an idea of a subscription-based access to certain functionality with a token fee to keep me motivated to work on the site and maybe cover the hosting and domain fees. One feature that came to mind was a comparison tool between points earned from AY and another OW airline for the same route, but nothing concrete yet.
Also thinking about how to handle the AY switch to Avios next year. Playing around with an idea of a subscription-based access to certain functionality with a token fee to keep me motivated to work on the site and maybe cover the hosting and domain fees. One feature that came to mind was a comparison tool between points earned from AY and another OW airline for the same route, but nothing concrete yet.
Anyhow, the service you have created is pretty great. I would be ready to pay something for it, but the price would need to be low enough. Maybe $/ 9.99/year would hit the sweet spot.
#62



Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Helsinki, Finland
Programs: AY+
Posts: 107
#63
Original Poster

Join Date: Aug 2022
Location: Hel
Programs: AY Plat
Posts: 351
Just curious, do you actually have Finnair's permission to use the trademark name "Finnair" in the domain name? I believe trademark owners can - if they want to - have domain names taken down if the name infringes their trademark. If you just add on the page that it's not affiliated with Finnair, that doesn't help.
#64
FlyerTalk Evangelist




Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: HEL
Programs: lots of shiny metal cards
Posts: 14,847
If I were you, I wouldn't put any/much effort into this now due to the upcoming new system. THEN it would be very interesting if you could tackle those earnings!
What I'd REALLY crave will be a simple "where to credit"* type of site in the Avios world, where you just feed in your route or flight number, booking class, net ticket price and marketing airline and get a list of earnings in the different Avios schemes. Maybe ChatGPT or similar could handle it??
* I know there's one already, but it's not like this
What I'd REALLY crave will be a simple "where to credit"* type of site in the Avios world, where you just feed in your route or flight number, booking class, net ticket price and marketing airline and get a list of earnings in the different Avios schemes. Maybe ChatGPT or similar could handle it??
* I know there's one already, but it's not like this
#65
Original Poster

Join Date: Aug 2022
Location: Hel
Programs: AY Plat
Posts: 351
What I'd REALLY crave will be a simple "where to credit"* type of site in the Avios world, where you just feed in your route or flight number, booking class, net ticket price and marketing airline and get a list of earnings in the different Avios schemes. Maybe ChatGPT or similar could handle it??
* I know there's one already, but it's not like this
* I know there's one already, but it's not like this
#66
Moderator, Finnair



Join Date: May 2011
Location: MMX (CPH)
Programs: EB Diamond, AY+ Gold, A3*G, Strawberry Lifetime Platinum, GHA Discovery Titanium, SJ Prio Black
Posts: 15,184
Yes, I was going to say the same. If one is into the avios world, it would be helpful to know where to credit as there are so many inconsistencies.
I recently got bitten, having my QR number on a AA boardingpass for status perks without checking the earnings. So it turned out that the fare earned zero avios on QRPC while BAEC was a good payer. In my case peanuts but still annoying.
The challenge for you would be to keep it up-to-date. I think earnings might be tweeked alot over time.
Also, what I find tedious with existing services is the manual entry. Many fly a lot, and many tries multiple options before booking so repeatedly entering multiple datapoints will hamper.
It would be nice if you could just drop text into a box and it would be analysed by your site as to what is what in the fare. Different programs counts differently what is part of the spend that earns. E.g. I think IB counts VAT as part of spend and AY doesn't (to the best of my understanding). IB also have other quirks, eg they combine spend based and route based earnings on some routes.
These differences is a major obstacle for those of us who no longer enjoys keeping too many details top-of-mind and handling of all that would be good feature.
I recently got bitten, having my QR number on a AA boardingpass for status perks without checking the earnings. So it turned out that the fare earned zero avios on QRPC while BAEC was a good payer. In my case peanuts but still annoying.
The challenge for you would be to keep it up-to-date. I think earnings might be tweeked alot over time.
Also, what I find tedious with existing services is the manual entry. Many fly a lot, and many tries multiple options before booking so repeatedly entering multiple datapoints will hamper.
It would be nice if you could just drop text into a box and it would be analysed by your site as to what is what in the fare. Different programs counts differently what is part of the spend that earns. E.g. I think IB counts VAT as part of spend and AY doesn't (to the best of my understanding). IB also have other quirks, eg they combine spend based and route based earnings on some routes.
These differences is a major obstacle for those of us who no longer enjoys keeping too many details top-of-mind and handling of all that would be good feature.
#67


Join Date: Oct 2014
Programs: HappinesSMiles Silver
Posts: 579
Can't you claim them directly on BA if the flight was zero crediting? I think this was the case maybe on another alliance, but costs nothing to try here.
#68
Moderator, Finnair



Join Date: May 2011
Location: MMX (CPH)
Programs: EB Diamond, AY+ Gold, A3*G, Strawberry Lifetime Platinum, GHA Discovery Titanium, SJ Prio Black
Posts: 15,184
#70


Join Date: Jun 2015
Programs: AY+, SK EB
Posts: 3,466
#71
Join Date: Oct 2023
Posts: 15
Actually, the ticket receipt does not show any ticket type only the booking class. However, the BP does show it so a little confusing.
Last edited by pptskyy; Jan 22, 2024 at 1:25 pm
#72
Original Poster

Join Date: Aug 2022
Location: Hel
Programs: AY Plat
Posts: 351
Made some updates:
- Switched from km to miles based earning on partner flights.
- Adjusted the tier point earning for the new system's ratio (3:2) and added a note the calculator for AY flights works for the flights booked before March 9th.
Let me know if there are any issues as I don't have up-to-date points data to test this properly.
- Switched from km to miles based earning on partner flights.
- Adjusted the tier point earning for the new system's ratio (3:2) and added a note the calculator for AY flights works for the flights booked before March 9th.
Let me know if there are any issues as I don't have up-to-date points data to test this properly.
#73



Join Date: Mar 2019
Location: HEL
Programs: AY+ Platinum
Posts: 271
Someone wrote earlier that it was certainly the lowest possible point accumulation from an AA flight (a couple of hundred points). I’ll make it better, MH flight SIN-KUL-DPS rt booking class Q, 0 points.
I didn't know you could earn so less and it was a bit of a surprise.
I didn't know you could earn so less and it was a bit of a surprise.
#74
Original Poster

Join Date: Aug 2022
Location: Hel
Programs: AY Plat
Posts: 351
Someone wrote earlier that it was certainly the lowest possible point accumulation from an AA flight (a couple of hundred points). Ill make it better, MH flight SIN-KUL-DPS rt booking class Q, 0 points.
I didn't know you could earn so less and it was a bit of a surprise.
I didn't know you could earn so less and it was a bit of a surprise.

