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Old Sep 13, 2023 | 9:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Kacee
Unless you're SEA based, 75K is just fine. OWE and near cert upgrades on most routes.
Unfortunately, most of my flying is SEA based (specifically SEA-NYC and SEA-IAD) for the foreseeable future, but I anticipate at some point in the next 3-5 years I will rebase to ex-NYC. The MVP 100K choice benefit to nominate someone for MVP Gold is an item of interest in the short term though.

I primarily use UA/*A benefits for international flights ex-EWR/IAD to help my two other traveling companions.

I'd originally contemplated switching to DL (even added a DL Biz Plat) considering Amex+DL's relative strength in NYC and ease of qualification. Obviously not worth considering now of course.
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Old Sep 13, 2023 | 9:14 pm
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Originally Posted by jsloan
In order to book my hotel through the DL ecosystem, I presumably have to give up my elite benefits with the hotel, right? That's a significant hurdle for me personally.
Originally Posted by Kacee
Yes, same reason I have no interest in playing AA's loyalty points game, either.

I wouldn't play that game for 1K, either. Waitlisting PP vs. giving up Hyatt/Marriott elite benes and points? No thanks, not a good trade, at least not for me.
I'm sure you're already aware, but just for those that aren't, on AA you can earn LPs on hotels booked through the AA shopping portal (which just redirects to the hotel website). Marriott can always be had for 1 LP/$ on the portal, but occasionally up to 3-4 LP/$. It is a hassle no doubt, but you can still get Marriott & AA credit through the shopping portal.

AA elites also get 1 LP/$ on Hyatt stays just from the AA/Hyatt partnership.
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Old Sep 13, 2023 | 10:09 pm
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Originally Posted by jsloan
Delta's other shoe has dropped
That wasn't a shoe. It was a clog factory.
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 11:42 am
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My guess for 2015 UA requirements

UA Silver for 2024: 12 PQF and 4,000 PQP or 5,000 PQP; DL Silver, 6000 MQDs; UA for 2015 qualification: 12 PQF and 5000 PQP or 6000 PQP
UA Gold for 2024: 24 PQF and 8,000 PQP or 10,000 PQP; DL Gold: 12,000 MQDs; UA for 2015 qualification: 24 PQF, 10,000 PQP or 12,000 PQP.
UA Platinum for 2024: 36 PQF and 12,000 PQP or 15,000 PQP; DL Platinum: 18,000 MQD; UA for 2015 qualification: 36 PQF and 15,000 PQP or 18,000 PQP
UA 1K for 2024: 54 PQF and 18,000 PQP or 24,000 PQP; DL Diamond, 36,000 MQDs; UA for 2015 qualification: 54 PQF and 22,000 PQPs or 30,000 PQP
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 11:49 am
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Just a quick reminder that UA offered a PQP bonus to everyone who currently had status this year. They could make a fairly significant increase in their requirements simply by not doing so in 2024.
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 12:35 pm
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Originally Posted by jsloan
Just a quick reminder that UA offered a PQP bonus to everyone who currently had status this year. They could make a fairly significant increase in their requirements simply by not doing so in 2024.
Prediction: The PQP bonus will be dependent on having a United CC.
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 12:39 pm
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Originally Posted by escapefromphl
Prediction: The PQP bonus will be dependent on having a United CC.
Question on whether having a card is enough or if they will try to driving card spending when seeking elite status by upping thresholds and making earning PQPs with the credit cards easier (more PQPs for spend, higher or no cap). If we are to believe that they will mimic DL, then it'll be the latter.
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 2:31 pm
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UA will raise and stay slightly shy of what DL is asking. My 2 cents. We'll see
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 2:42 pm
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While knowing what UA's competitor DL will require for status in 2025 is an important piece of data, we don't have the information needed to predict with any accuracy what UA will do.
I have made many bold predictions in the past and have been wrong every single time. Maybe DL just wants to cull the herd for real this time.
If UA decides to reduce the cohort of top status fliers, then we know what they could do. What I hope they do is nothing even though as a MM my fallback Gold status may suddenly seem more special.
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 2:48 pm
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Originally Posted by cfischer
UA will raise and stay slightly shy of what DL is asking. My 2 cents. We'll see
I think they'd only be able to increase it that much if they increase PQP earning rates on their cards. Right now Delta is 10 or 20 to 1 depending on the card. United is 24 to 1. AA is of course 1 to 1, but their Exec Plat requirement is less than 6x higher than Delta's new Diamond requirement, so it's almost like 6 to 1 given their current thresholds.

My feeling is United would be better off both increasing the PQP earn rate to drive more spend and increasing the qualification thresholds to something in between what AA and Delta is now. People are up in arms about Delta's 35k level. United could position themselves well to snipe former Diamonds from Delta by making theirs around 25-28k while making it a bit easier to earn PQP from credit cards, assuming they want them.
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 2:58 pm
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My guess is UA goes PQP only, with rates that fall between AA and DL.
The wild card will be whether card PQP earning rates improve or increase from the current levels.
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 7:28 pm
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Will UA change MP in response to DL's changes?

I know there is a separate thread about welcoming Delta to UA - but it got me wondering if UA is due for another major change (or changes) to their program in response to what appears to be a major overhaul of DL's program?
... and what that might look like?
... or what people would like to see changed?

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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 7:32 pm
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they already did a huge devaluation this year so I would hope not. not yet at least.
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 7:34 pm
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not just a typical devaluation - but maybe structural changes..... like re-vamping the PP program?
revising the MM program (adding a few perks to that would be nice as I am getting closer?)
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Old Sep 14, 2023 | 7:40 pm
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I'd like to see higher thresholds, but 1 PQP for every 10 dollars spent on the club card

Maybe 6/12/18/27K PQP for the various tiers
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