Mar 11, 2020, 10:13 am
Last edit by: Ocn Vw 1K
In order to reduce noise in the Coronavirus / Covid-19 : general fact-based reporting thread, and to create a central place to invite any member to ask a basic question about the impact of COVID-19 on travel, your moderators have decided to open this separate "lounge" thread for related discussion that isn't strictly fact-based reporting.
Any member who can provide a constructive, helpful answer to a question; or post constructively in reply to a member's point-of-view, is welcome to post.
All FT rules apply, including avoiding personalized, snarky, political, other off-topic, commercial, and repeatedly disruptive content.
Discussion of general economic impacts of Covid-19 belongs in the OMNI forum, not here.
Discussion and critique of political/government actions to aid the economy or which is far more political than related to COVID-19 is for the OMNI/PR forum, not here.
This is a protocol for posting adopted by the forum Moderator team:Please follow this protocol, based on FlyerTalk Rules and long-standing FlyerTalk best practices. Doing so will help keep the thread open, and allow our moderator team to aid members, rather than having to resort to discipline.
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•Especially important in this time of pandemic, when normal life and travel have been upended: please take regular breaks from the thread.
Please stay healthy,
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Any member who can provide a constructive, helpful answer to a question; or post constructively in reply to a member's point-of-view, is welcome to post.
All FT rules apply, including avoiding personalized, snarky, political, other off-topic, commercial, and repeatedly disruptive content.
Discussion of general economic impacts of Covid-19 belongs in the OMNI forum, not here.
Discussion and critique of political/government actions to aid the economy or which is far more political than related to COVID-19 is for the OMNI/PR forum, not here.
This is a protocol for posting adopted by the forum Moderator team:Please follow this protocol, based on FlyerTalk Rules and long-standing FlyerTalk best practices. Doing so will help keep the thread open, and allow our moderator team to aid members, rather than having to resort to discipline.
•Constructive, respectful posts, views, opinions, questions, and replies, related to the topic are welcome. Avoid commenting on members personally, or posting off-topic or political messages.
•While respectful disagreement of a posted view is allowed, don’t call-out posters to prove their points. FlyerTalk has never required discussion standards at the level of a Ph.D. dissertation defense, or a trial court witness cross-examination.
•After a reasonable exchange of views on a point, please yield the floor so that others may bring up different topics, questions or points.
•Especially important in this time of pandemic, when normal life and travel have been upended: please take regular breaks from the thread.
Please stay healthy,
your FT Coronavirus and Travel Moderator Team.
COVID-19: Lounge thread for thoughts, concerns and questions
Mar 12, 2020 | 7:27 pm
#361
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It’s about delaying the spread so the government has time to build up medical resources and/or find a cure.
Mar 12, 2020 | 7:41 pm
#362
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if you watch the video that was linked upthread, if there is an effective vaccine it will be at best 2 months, most likely more. The randomized trials of antiviral treatment are underway. It will be a few weeks/months before they have enough numbers to make a call on treatment. So there will be no cure. The virus mutates.
Mar 12, 2020 | 8:00 pm
#363
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Mar 12, 2020 | 8:07 pm
#364
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https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/32122046-post2934.html
(in short, testing and production of large quantities takes a lot of time)
(*) I suppose you could volunteer for a vaccine trial.
Mar 12, 2020 | 8:16 pm
#365
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So Dr. Fauci is stupid?
https://khn.org/morning-breakout/thi...-u-s-outbreak/
Perhaps share what school conferred relevant medical degrees to you, what epidemics or pandemics you have fought, investigated or modeled at a reputable organization, or what else qualifies you to call others stupid. I am looking for something, anything that would help me find anything of value in your posts when I try to learn about the situation we are facing and discussing.
https://khn.org/morning-breakout/thi...-u-s-outbreak/
Perhaps share what school conferred relevant medical degrees to you, what epidemics or pandemics you have fought, investigated or modeled at a reputable organization, or what else qualifies you to call others stupid. I am looking for something, anything that would help me find anything of value in your posts when I try to learn about the situation we are facing and discussing.
Mar 12, 2020 | 8:27 pm
#366
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Translation from all reports from Spanish to English, Italian to English and English to English: "Brace for impact"....
Mar 12, 2020 | 9:04 pm
#367
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Mar 13, 2020 | 1:20 am
#368
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It seems that travel has had a huge impact on transmission. Since there aren't enough resources to 'filter' this between people in close proximity in the US, would a country-wide home quarantine help to halt the spread? Because that's what we're heading towards anyways--the difference is that a percentage of people will be critically sick.
Mar 13, 2020 | 1:26 am
#369
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It seems that travel has had a huge impact on transmission. Since there aren't enough resources to 'filter' this between people in close proximity in the US, would a country-wide home quarantine help to halt the spread? Because that's what we're heading towards anyways--the difference is that a percentage of people will be critically sick.
Mar 13, 2020 | 2:06 am
#370
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It likely would but the economical impact would be immense. You have to try and strike a fine balance between underreacting and overreacting. You basically have no chance of completely containing it, so now you're just trying to keep the rate of new infections below a rate that would overwhelm hospitals with critical cases.
Mar 13, 2020 | 2:16 am
#371
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People should look at what is happening in Italy and Spain. They did not flatten the curve enough and now due to the saturation of the health care system, mortality and impact increases for young people: in Spain 30 % of cases now need intubation, regardless of age. In Italy there are more deaths for the age 40-50 years old. This is what will happen if we do not take drastic measures now.
Mar 13, 2020 | 6:07 am
#372
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There was a joke on Facebook, but I'm seriously considering doing it. Someone had the idea of making a T-shirt with big letters saying, "it's allergies and asthma, not a virus!".
Mar 13, 2020 | 6:24 am
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Mar 13, 2020 | 6:52 am
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