Go Back  FlyerTalk Forums > Miles&Points > Airlines and Mileage Programs > Delta Air Lines | SkyMiles
Reload this Page >

Do first class folks get skyclub access?

Community
Wiki Posts
Search

Do first class folks get skyclub access?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Dec 30, 2018 | 7:27 am
  #106  
jbb
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Programs: SQ *Gold
Posts: 871
Further update: I replied to Delta’s tweet response asking when the rules changed to only allow DeltaOne passengers. They replied back “The information was updated on November 15, 2018” and provided the link to the Sky Club access rules.
jbb is offline  
Old Dec 30, 2018 | 7:31 am
  #107  
pvn
Suspended
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: MEM
Programs: Starbucks Green Card
Posts: 5,431
weird, the rules still say "first or business" and still explicitly include canada and mexico.

https://www.delta.com/us/en/delta-sky-club/access
gooselee likes this.
pvn is offline  
Old Dec 30, 2018 | 7:33 am
  #108  
pvn
Suspended
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: MEM
Programs: Starbucks Green Card
Posts: 5,431
oh, they've added a section for DL metal specifically that only specifies Delta One.

But the SkyTeam flight section is the same. And DL flights are SkyTeam flights.
pvn is offline  
Old Dec 30, 2018 | 7:34 am
  #109  
jbb
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Programs: SQ *Gold
Posts: 871
Originally Posted by pvn
weird, the rules still say "first or business" and still explicitly include canada and mexico.

https://www.delta.com/us/en/delta-sky-club/access
The way I read those rules the “first or business” is only referring to Sky Team partner operated flights. For flights operates by Delta it explicitly only says Delta One.
jbb is offline  
Old Dec 30, 2018 | 8:10 am
  #110  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
30 Countries Visited
2M
All eyes on you!
20 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: KARB
Programs: DL 2MM
Posts: 26,943
Did the agents scan your boarding pass at any point? Do you have a copy of them? I believe it should say Sky Club on it if you are allowed access. As others have indicated, FC flights to Canada should qualify as an international Skyteam premium cabin flight. Although they've split up the sections, the language on the website really hasn't changed. Here's what it used to say (snapshot from March 2017).
Delta One or SkyTeam Premium Cabin Passenger
Customers traveling in Delta One on an international Delta flight or a domestic Delta flight connecting to/from a same-day international Delta flight* in Delta One or travel in international First/Business Class on a SkyTeam-operated flight. (In order to qualify for Club access, the customer must be confirmed in the premium (first or business class) cabin for the international segment of their itinerary.)

*International Travel includes: Customers traveling to/from Europe, Asia, South America, Central America, Africa, Canada and Mexico (excludes travel to/from the Caribbean, Guam, Palau and Saipan).

Last edited by xliioper; Dec 30, 2018 at 8:17 am
xliioper is offline  
Old Dec 30, 2018 | 8:17 am
  #111  
pvn
Suspended
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: MEM
Programs: Starbucks Green Card
Posts: 5,431
I don't think appealing to the skyteam rules is going to work here. STE+ will still get access regardless of cabin. This seems to only apply to non-STE+ passengers on F tickets.
pvn is offline  
Old Dec 30, 2018 | 8:30 am
  #112  
Suspended
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: DCA
Programs: UA US CO AA DL FL
Posts: 50,253
The best all of the quibbling will yield is a clarification that a ST F/J ticket must be operated by a DL partner.

The language seems fairly clear in OP's case. Yes, Canada is included. But, as he was not in D1, he is not eligible for SC access. The fact that there are no D1 flights to Canada may make the language superfluous, but won't change the result.
Often1 is offline  
Old Dec 30, 2018 | 9:29 am
  #113  
jbb
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Programs: SQ *Gold
Posts: 871
Originally Posted by LBJ
Did the agents scan your boarding pass at any point? Do you have a copy of them? I believe it should say Sky Club on it if you are allowed access.
The lounge agents did scan the boarding pass. The boarding pass did not say “Sky Club” on it.
jbb is offline  
Old Dec 30, 2018 | 10:43 am
  #114  
 
Join Date: Oct 2018
Posts: 15
I will be testing this in a few weeks. I'm on a flight to Mexico in paid first class. The old language and new language are essentially the same. So far as I'm concerned, I'm traveling on a Skyteam flight. The language even links to a "list of Skyteam member airlines" and (of course) Delta is on that list. If they meant to exclude Delta "skyteam" flights they should have said so.

Is it a big deal? Nope. In the scheme of things, it's definitely a first world problem. However, having lounge access on the outbound flight is one of the reasons I choose to pay for first class. It's gonna suck if they now decide that I don't because it's not Delta One, although it is a Skyteam first class international flight.
mnflyer58 is offline  
Old Dec 30, 2018 | 11:16 am
  #115  
A FlyerTalk Posting Legend
40 Countries Visited
60 Nights
5M
15 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
Location: Minneapolis: DL DM charter 2.3MM
Programs: A3*Gold, SPG Plat, HyattDiamond, MarriottPP, LHW exAccess, ICI, Raffles Amb, NW PE MM, TWA Gold MM
Posts: 102,617
Does this mean that flights to Central America and northern South America will no longer give lounge access for nonelites conrfirmed into business class or whatever DL is calling it now as these flights don't have D1 service either?

It seems like a big change in the rules to be a stealth enhancement. I wonder whether DL notified travel agents of the change, as I suspect they're the ones that are most likely to be selling FC tickets to these destinations to people without SkyTeam (ElitePlus) status.
MSPeconomist is offline  
Old Dec 30, 2018 | 12:17 pm
  #116  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
2M
50 Countries Visited
100 Nights
20 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio
Programs: DL DM, Former AA EXP now AY Plat, AC 75K, NW Plat, Former CO Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 28,002
BP doesn't say Skyclub unless an actual member.

Couple of different access methods are being discussed. Delta One regardless of route (including domestic D1 routes) gets access. Premium passengers meaning business/first passengers on international routes excluding Caribbean also get access. The problem is some DL agents are trained to only think of D1 as being international business. If the poster gave his BP for the flight to Canada I'm betting it scanned fine. However the agent decided the system was wrong.

BTW co-worker flew F to Canada first week of December and had no issue getting in. There has been issues for years with agents saying Canadian flights don't get access. Nothing new sadly.
flyerCO is offline  
Old Dec 30, 2018 | 12:22 pm
  #117  
pvn
Suspended
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: MEM
Programs: Starbucks Green Card
Posts: 5,431
Originally Posted by flyerCO
Premium passengers meaning business/first passengers on international routes excluding Caribbean also get access.
That's not what the rules say anymore.

If the poster gave his BP for the flight to Canada I'm betting it scanned fine. However the agent decided the system was wrong.

BTW co-worker flew F to Canada first week of December and had no issue getting in.
Actually, the poster's agent most likely followed what the system said (no access) and the agent in your cow-orker's case decided the system was wrong and (incorrectly) let him/her in.
pvn is offline  
Old Dec 30, 2018 | 12:31 pm
  #118  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
2M
50 Countries Visited
100 Nights
20 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio
Programs: DL DM, Former AA EXP now AY Plat, AC 75K, NW Plat, Former CO Gold, Hilton Diamond, Marriott Titanium
Posts: 28,002

It says so right here. This is same as it has always said.
flyerCO is offline  
Old Dec 30, 2018 | 12:42 pm
  #119  
FlyerTalk Evangelist
All eyes on you!
10 Years on Site
 
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: ATL
Programs: DL Scattered Smothered Covered Medallion, Some hotel & car stuff, Kroger Plus Card
Posts: 10,801
I have had non-status friends fly FC to Canada in the past and have had no problems getting SC access. In fact, I've used my miles a couple times to book a friend in FC for his occasional trips ATL<>YUL and when in FC on that route, he makes a point to stop in the SC since he usually doesn't have access.

If DL is now interpreting their website language as DL-operated, "First Class" travel from US to Canada being ineligible for access, this represents a very real change in the policies and the loss of a benefit of the premium cabin travel "experience" on those flights.

The least they could do is be a little more clear in what the new access policies are.
gooselee is offline  
Old Dec 30, 2018 | 1:22 pm
  #120  
pvn
Suspended
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: MEM
Programs: Starbucks Green Card
Posts: 5,431
Originally Posted by flyerCO
It says so right here. This is same as it has always said.
read that ENTIRE section. it's not the same. The definition of "international" is the same but that's only relevant on skyteam flights, there is different wording for delta metal.


pvn is offline  


Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service -

This site is owned, operated, and maintained by MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. Copyright © 2026 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Designated trademarks are the property of their respective owners.