Why are international OWs so expensive, such high fare classes?
#91
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Hello,
I hope this is the right place to ask this. I was doing a somewhat wide search for fares from NRT-LAX. However, all the way through the end of the year, it looks like United economy fares are around $4200. I tried sampling a few flights and it looks like the seat map is wide open! However, there are still no economy fares available, just flexible economy.
Is there something wrong with the system, or has United chosen not to sell regular economy seats on this route anymore? Or some other reason?
Thanks for any help with figuring this out!
I hope this is the right place to ask this. I was doing a somewhat wide search for fares from NRT-LAX. However, all the way through the end of the year, it looks like United economy fares are around $4200. I tried sampling a few flights and it looks like the seat map is wide open! However, there are still no economy fares available, just flexible economy.
Is there something wrong with the system, or has United chosen not to sell regular economy seats on this route anymore? Or some other reason?
Thanks for any help with figuring this out!
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Do you reside in Japan (Asia) or U.S. (NAmer)? UA may well offer low oneway economy NRT-LAX fares that can only be purchased on that side of the Pacific. Local TAs and consolidators may also have unpublished fares. International tariffs are somewhat different than domestic ones in that they often differ wildly based on the sold/ticketed location.
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Also, in my experience, discount international fare buckets only open up about 3-4 months before departure. Anything beyond that and you're paying for the convenience of booking far ahead into the future.
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I see UA has a $635 RT fare NRT-LAX into June, climbing over $1000 July and August, then $967 through end of schedule. So yes best price is closer in. Biggest issue though is searching OW vs. RT.
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mahasamatman or anyone else, any thoughts on this?
Do you reside in Japan (Asia) or U.S. (NAmer)? UA may well offer low oneway economy NRT-LAX fares that can only be purchased on that side of the Pacific. Local TAs and consolidators may also have unpublished fares. International tariffs are somewhat different than domestic ones in that they often differ wildly based on the sold/ticketed location.
Thank you all for the responses, I appreciate it!
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The residual value will likely be negative. When you change the itinerary, UA will reprice it to match your actual flights -- so you're back to $4200 unless your 'different leg' happens to be a return trip to TYO, in which case you wouldn't have this problem in the first place. :-)
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The residual value will likely be negative. When you change the itinerary, UA will reprice it to match your actual flights -- so you're back to $4200 unless your 'different leg' happens to be a return trip to TYO, in which case you wouldn't have this problem in the first place. :-)
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UA's change to full fare Y or flexible economy only for one way fares NRT - LAX/SFO etc (and all US mainland) starting April 1st makes absolutely no sense to me, as AA and others are keeping normal one way fares active; also UAs pricing for the reverse route remains normal.
If it's a change in policy, someone in UA must be using Monty Python logic.
If it's a change in policy, someone in UA must be using Monty Python logic.
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One Way Ticket from Tokyo to SFO Only Prices in Y Fare?
I just noticed this. I'm going to Tokyo next month and only my return date is confirmed. I am trying to buy a one way ticket from HND or NRT back to SFO, but the ticket only prices in Y. If I do a round trip, then I can get lower fare classes. Is it supposed to be the case?
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Just at a glance in SABRE, looks like the only one-way fares United has filed for Tokyo to SF are Y, J, and F fares, anything cheaper requires a roundtrip. While it's certainly debatable whether that's a good idea from a Rev Mgt perspective, it definitely appears that United.com is working as designed.
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Specifically, TYO and LON (and more broadly, Europe) almost never have discount one-way fares from the US, and other markets tend to have them more often.

