Sad News re corporate-wage-slave [He's flying economy for the first time very soon!]
Feb 14, 2016 | 3:57 am
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Feb 14, 2016 | 4:23 am
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Funnly enough I had a very similar view of Tyler Brl, until I met him and/or his partner on the road a few times. Bit of a part timer if you ask me. But welcome to Flyertalk ArthurMynde, welcome to the merry gang on the BA forum. The Edinburgh Do isn't far off, details below, and Jersey a little after that, so hopefully I'll see you then. Welcome on board.
I will be looking out for those socks in the NCL lounge although for obvious reasons i prefer black and white stripes on my socks.
Feb 14, 2016 | 6:57 am
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I've read this thread with a mixture of pleasure and horror. The horror part - my first LH in Y for several years is next Saturday. The 10 hours to MAA in a 787 is now solidly confirmed as something I'm going to have to brace myself for. Hopefully a few stiff G&T's will do the trick. (and thankfully back in CW and I'll truly appreciate it)
Feb 14, 2016 | 8:47 am
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Oh my... "lots of people fly economy" - the majority of people travel economy! Although the numbers vary greatly depending on how you cut it, per plane this is anywhere from about 58% (789) to 100% (321) (for WT/ET only) - and I suspect overall it's probably close to 80%. I would also note that the survival rate is probably as good as those travelling up front (but would be interested to know if any studies have been done!).
Feb 14, 2016 | 8:57 am
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CWS! Great report on the 787-situation ^
I had my doubts that you actually would go through with this, I mean a man with probably a seven digit Avios account has some options
I feel that this is a race to the bottom, the less people are willing to pay, the worse the experience will be. This is certainly not limited to BA even though WT on 787 must be the leader of the pack right now when it comes to discomfort.
I had my doubts that you actually would go through with this, I mean a man with probably a seven digit Avios account has some options
I feel that this is a race to the bottom, the less people are willing to pay, the worse the experience will be. This is certainly not limited to BA even though WT on 787 must be the leader of the pack right now when it comes to discomfort.
Feb 14, 2016 | 11:01 am
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Oh my... "lots of people fly economy" - the majority of people travel economy! Although the numbers vary greatly depending on how you cut it, per plane this is anywhere from about 58% (789) to 100% (321) (for WT/ET only) - and I suspect overall it's probably close to 80%. I would also note that the survival rate is probably as good as those travelling up front (but would be interested to know if any studies have been done!).
Beyond this, the demographics and health status of coach versus premium cabin passengers are surely distributed differently. For example, think of the obese passengers who purchase something above coach due to their size. They're presumably more likely to die from various causes but the rates of death during flight might be so low as to be statistically insignificant.
Feb 14, 2016 | 11:33 am
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Feb 14, 2016 | 12:27 pm
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This has been one of my favorite threads to follow. Sad that it's over. But a friend of mine who is a sheep farmer in Buckinghamshire just sent me the most fabulous book on sheep farming in the north of England. Very eye opening and a highly recommended read if you find yourself sitting in coach again for 6 hours.
Feb 14, 2016 | 1:27 pm
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As a seasoned Y man, I bet nobody else in there would have considered they might get some compensation, albeit Avios, for an uncomfy seat and bad IFE. I'm sure some of that was to do with cws's hard-won status, but it is salutary and I hope this thinking gets out there. I don't like compensation culture generally but more Ys asking may at least get BA to notice things that need improving - IFE being my bugbear. Let the masses rise up!
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Feb 14, 2016 | 5:47 pm
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Feb 14, 2016 | 8:13 pm
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By contrast, I find it difficult to even open my laptop in shorthaul Y other than an exit row or bulkhead, and if someone is in the middle seat, it's pretty difficult to work comfortably for more than short while.
Feb 15, 2016 | 4:08 am
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Great thread. If someone who travels at the front of the plane as much as CWS can survive BA economy and say "not so bad really" then it really does make some of the comments we see on CW seem hyperbolic. That seat does look tiny though.
CWS: You clearly spend an incredible amount of time flying - amazing that in 40 years you had managed to avoid Economy. That being the case, was any part of you looking forward to this flight just out of curiosity? I love my trips in CW and F, but I only manage about 10 flights a year. If I was doing 10 a week, I'm sure I'd find it mundane to the point where I'd actually welcome a change, even if it meant a worse seat!
CWS: You clearly spend an incredible amount of time flying - amazing that in 40 years you had managed to avoid Economy. That being the case, was any part of you looking forward to this flight just out of curiosity? I love my trips in CW and F, but I only manage about 10 flights a year. If I was doing 10 a week, I'm sure I'd find it mundane to the point where I'd actually welcome a change, even if it meant a worse seat!