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Old Feb 4, 2016 | 11:43 am
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Saturday weather in London

Just seen that the Met Office are forecasting winds gusting to 49mph (43kts) from the south (i.e. direct cross-wind) for several hours at Heathrow on Saturday: forecast. What sort of impact is this likely to have on flights?
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Old Feb 4, 2016 | 11:45 am
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Where are you flying to?
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Old Feb 4, 2016 | 11:54 am
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Hmmm... I'm doing a BGO B2B and then on to BOS.

Fingers crossed!
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Old Feb 4, 2016 | 12:11 pm
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Where are you flying to?
Miami at 9:10am so, hopefully, before it gets too bad and not a flight that will be proactively cancelled if flow is reduced.
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It's unlikely it would be since as you say it is a relatively early departure so cancellation would be unlikely to help with any flow restrictions later in the day.
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the models have been hinting at something for a few days but there is no strong agreement as to how windy, where and when.

Sat night into Sun and Sun night into Monday and then Thurs.

The models keep sending the low further south so your early departure should be OK, and I expect the worst of the wind to downplayed by the models tomorrow
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Hope so,it's MEX for me on sunday at 1245..
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I'm off to CDG at 08:40 on Monday - hopefully we'll get off ok!
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Currently predicting winds up to 24mph (around 40kph) so it's looking better.

I hope so I have to be in Dublin before 4pm.
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Old Feb 4, 2016 | 2:49 pm
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Fortunately you have a very talented team that will be able to land to the aircraft limits of approx 40kts/47mph across the runway...
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Old Feb 4, 2016 | 2:50 pm
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Hmmm, yes, it is looking interesting for mid-day onwards Saturday...

I'm also flying short haul EU so will be keenly watching the situation and will help where possible.

From the UK Met Office surface charts prognosis the situation is okay early morning (winds SSW around 25kts) but by mid-day it is around 40kts or more as there is a 20 hPa pressure gradient from West Scotland to Southeast corner of UK...Winds are indeed forecast to be straight Southerly winds at 12 Noon. Certainly suggesting quite a difference in air masses as well with colder air moving in by midnight Sat. into Sun.

http://www.weathercharts.org/ukmomslp.htm

Anything up to 72 hours out is generally quite accurate with around 75 % score (with the usual caveat that they know what is currently happening and why as well as what the important drivers are going forward.)

Currently they think the Icelandic low (which is quite deep actually at 950 hPa) will remain quite stable and help feed and therefore deepen the low coming across the pond which is around 1000 hPa right now but expected to deepen to around 956 hPa for Sat. @ noon just off the coast of Northern Ireland. It appears they think it will stay put there and just spin off new frontal systems every 24 hours or so...

Sunday @ 12 noon is also currently looking quite windy with similar 40+ kts but at least from the SW instead of straight S (crosswind)...

We'll have to watch the TAF's and see how the forecasters confidence is as this gets closer in time and space to us.

Not had a BA IRROPS for some time so I'm likely due (and I wonder if LTNPhobia is travelling as well?)
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Old Feb 5, 2016 | 2:40 am
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Starting to get the TAF covering tomorrow.

Code:
EGLL 050920Z AUTO 23013G23KT 9999 BKN010 10/08 Q1021 TEMPO SCT010 BKN015
TAF AMD EGLL 050557Z 0506/0612 22010KT 9999 SCT018 
     TEMPO 0506/0521 6000 -RADZ BKN012 
     PROB30 
     TEMPO 0506/0524 4800 RADZ BKN009 
     TEMPO 0510/0522 21015G25KT 
     TEMPO 0521/0524 6000 -RADZ BKN014 
     BECMG 0600/0603 BKN012 
     PROB40 
     TEMPO 0600/0610 4800 RADZ BKN008 
     BECMG 0607/0610 21015G25KT 
     BECMG 0610/0612 19020G35KT
Wind is forcast to pick up from 0700 onwards. After 1000 it does start to get a bit worse and gusts to 35kts coming from 190 degrees.
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Originally Posted by KARFA
Starting to get the TAF covering tomorrow.

Code:
EGLL 050920Z AUTO 23013G23KT 9999 BKN010 10/08 Q1021 TEMPO SCT010 BKN015
TAF AMD EGLL 050557Z 0506/0612 22010KT 9999 SCT018 
     TEMPO 0506/0521 6000 -RADZ BKN012 
     PROB30 
     TEMPO 0506/0524 4800 RADZ BKN009 
     TEMPO 0510/0522 21015G25KT 
     TEMPO 0521/0524 6000 -RADZ BKN014 
     BECMG 0600/0603 BKN012 
     PROB40 
     TEMPO 0600/0610 4800 RADZ BKN008 
     BECMG 0607/0610 21015G25KT 
     BECMG 0610/0612 19020G35KT
Wind is forcast to pick up from 0700 onwards. After 1000 it does start to get a bit worse and gusts to 35kts coming from 190 degrees.
Am I right in thinking that the landing crosswind limit for the heavies (777/747) is 35-40kts? I haven't calculated the crosswind component but I would imagine that if it is coming from 190deg it could gust close to the limit?

BBC weather suggesting a southerly of up to 52mph (45kts) at 3pm tomorrow.
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Old Feb 5, 2016 | 2:58 am
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Originally Posted by crazy8534
Am I right in thinking that the landing crosswind limit for the heavies (777/747) is 35-40kts? I haven't calculated the crosswind component but I would imagine that if it is coming from 190deg it could gust close to the limit?

BBC weather suggesting a southerly of up to 52mph (45kts) at 3pm tomorrow.
I think it is more like 40 or just over that. The smaller A320 series are at 38kts I think, and the larger birds will have a higher limit.

Crosswind component for wind 80 degrees off runway heading is 0.98 x wind speed.
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Old Feb 5, 2016 | 3:38 am
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Originally Posted by KARFA
I think it is more like 40 or just over that. The smaller A320 series are at 38kts I think, and the larger birds will have a higher limit.

Crosswind component for wind 80 degrees off runway heading is 0.98 x wind speed.
Thanks, KARFA. Could be an interesting day...
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