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Old Aug 29, 2014 | 11:47 pm
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Originally Posted by rtalk25
If for some reason, JetBlue ended EWR-BOS as it originally didn't dedicate EWR slots for BOS and UA raised it's fares, or PHL-BOS and US raised it's fares, I could see Frontier considering TTN-BOS.
Bummer! What happened there? Did they tried? They couldn't workout very well. I think F9 will considering TTN-BOS instead. It could be right. I have doubt it.

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MHT remains JetBlue less and maybe it could compete against Southwest up there?
I think JetBlue will considering MHT service. Probably not for a while. It will happens. It will gets more tougher competition against Southwest.

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Most (all?) of Frontier's expansion since Indigo has been at primary airports.

That said, I'm surprised Frontier hasn't started Niagara Falls.
They hasn't starting yet. I think they will be at IAG instead of BUF.
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Old Sep 3, 2014 | 1:37 pm
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Cincinnati seems keen:

http://www.cincinnati.com/story/news...ines/15014999/

"CVG sales set record for Frontier Airlines

Frontier Airlines set a company record for one-day ticket sales last Thursday when the discount carrier announced new non-stop flights to five cities from low-fare-starved Cincinnati/Northern Kentucky International Airport.

Frontier sold 5,000 tickets alone in the six hours immediately after the airline officially announced 21 new weekly flights to Dallas-Fort Worth, Las Vegas, Phoenix, Orlando and Fort Lauderdale from CVG, according to airline and airport officials."
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Old Sep 4, 2014 | 2:50 pm
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An unexpected route. Is DFW or MEM becoming a focus city?
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Old Sep 4, 2014 | 3:49 pm
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Originally Posted by UA Fan
An unexpected route. Is DFW or MEM becoming a focus city?
In Frontier's present expansionary mood anything is possible, but more likely it's just a connecting of the dots.

DEN-MEM has down very well for Frontier but probably not quite enough to start a second non-stop. So this is a same-plane thru' flight, giving an alternative timing for DEN-MEM-DEN pax, as well as the DFW traffic.
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Old Sep 4, 2014 | 4:08 pm
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Originally Posted by davywavy
In Frontier's present expansionary mood anything is possible, but more likely it's just a connecting of the dots.

DEN-MEM has down very well for Frontier but probably not quite enough to start a second non-stop. So this is a same-plane thru' flight, giving an alternative timing for DEN-MEM-DEN pax, as well as the DFW traffic.
It's interesting that it's offering a same plane thru flight. It just recently eliminated TTN-MDW-DEN from future schedules. I wonder if this strategy will be embraced a little more in route planning. Does Frontier offer same plane service elsewhere?

DFW local traffic was probably the main reason for Frontier to start the route and from a brief check online, it appears that this route has high fares on AA and Delta, especially for one-ways and same week roundtrips. Given Southwest's constrained position at DAL, it's probably low likelihood Southwest starts DAL-MEM since MEM isn't a DCA, LGA, SFO category city, nor is it a major Southwest station, so that may have been considered. Houston is a different issue and we've yet to see CLE-IAH or other IAH routes as Southwest will likely add HOU to a lot of markets when Southwest grows at HOU.

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Originally Posted by rtalk25
It's interesting that it's offering a same plane thru flight. It just recently eliminated TTN-MDW-DEN from future schedules. I wonder if this strategy will be embraced a little more in route planning. Does Frontier offer same plane service elsewhere?
I think TTN-DEN-MDW is partly about the reduction in service to MDW, and who knows what will happen in the Spring - will TTN transfer to ORD, or will MDW get more flights or different timings?

They used to offer quite a few same plane thru' flights, but I haven't spent the time on this winter schedule - I don't know if it it is carved in stone yet. I'm mildly surprised they haven't added a MEM-Florida (RSW?), but they have to be really tight on aircraft by now.
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West coast to Hawaii would be nice if they got a new aircraft.
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Old Sep 5, 2014 | 8:53 am
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Originally Posted by davywavy
I think TTN-DEN-MDW is partly about the reduction in service to MDW, and who knows what will happen in the Spring - will TTN transfer to ORD, or will MDW get more flights or different timings?

They used to offer quite a few same plane thru' flights, but I haven't spent the time on this winter schedule - I don't know if it it is carved in stone yet. I'm mildly surprised they haven't added a MEM-Florida (RSW?), but they have to be really tight on aircraft by now.
Perhaps it can consider a TTN-MEM-DFW/IAH or TTN-RDU-DFW/IAH style same plane. Atleast this way it'd offer the major Texas cities or atleast Dallas (if not IAH) to the TTN base of customers, as ILG flights likely won't happen.

On nonstops even without same plane in consideration: RDU-DFW also seems like borderline high fare monopoly route on AA so maybe Frontier will consider that route. e.g. $250 one-way advance purchase fares on AA next month, $505 r/t with departure Tuesday and return Thursday of same week. I don't think Southwest announced RDU-DAL although it was proposed if it got the 2 extra gates that Virgin ended up getting. AA hasn't challenged Spirit or Frontier on the once-twice a day flights. Only US but the DFW routes that are flown exclusively by AA wouldn't apply to US.

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Old Sep 8, 2014 | 12:47 am
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Originally Posted by Earthlings
West coast to Hawaii would be nice if they got a new aircraft.
Right, they have wait for A320neo or A319neo to be delivery. I think the entire A320neo has more capabilities, more fuel-efficient, and increase the range. I think A320neo will fly DEN-Hawaii flight instead of going to West Coast.

And for ETOPS overwater certification. They have required to do training with ETOPS overwater certifications by FAA approval, but those A320neo or A319neo does not have ETOPS overwater. They have to install the ETOPS equipped.
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Old Sep 15, 2014 | 5:14 pm
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F9 dropping nonstop DEN-MDW and boosting DEN-ORD to 2nd daily

http://www.usatoday.com/story/todayi...ares/15636687/

Frontier will drop nonstop DEN-MDW and boosting DEN-ORD to 2 daily RT. It will coming back for next Summer 2015.
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F9 announces MIA-DEN/LGA/ORD/PHL

Hi all,

Wow!!! What a surprise!!! Frontier to announces Miami service. This route will become effective December 20, 2014 for MIA-DEN/PHL/LGA & effective December 21 from MIA-ORD, as well.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/busi...le2309299.html

And for FLL-DEN will be shifting to MIA-DEN.

Let the competition begin!!!!

AA will be big pissed at Frontier.
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 1:15 am
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Don't forget 7 new nonstops from PHL
PHL-MIA/MCO/TPA/ATL/ORD/CLT/CUN(expanded 1x to 5x weekly)
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http://www.philly.com/philly/busines...G_BACK_IN.html
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 1:35 am
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Are they planning a hub/focus city in TTN, PHL and ILG?
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Old Sep 30, 2014 | 5:42 am
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Originally Posted by UA Fan
Are they planning a hub/focus city in TTN, PHL and ILG?
As I just mentioned in the other thread, this is the death knell for ILG. Expect to see that airport wind down after the spring break travel season, if not after the holiday season (PHL-MCO/TPA begins in December).

One thing to note is that the article says the following about ILG/TTN:

"We have no plans to change our Trenton strategy," Biffle said. "You have the No. 1 metro area in the United States to the north - New York - and a top-five metropolitan area to the south - Philadelphia - and a lot of people who live in between."

Siegel said, "There's very little overlap between those markets."

Frontier operates flights at New Castle Airport near Wilmington, but some Delaware service has been cut.
I see TTN continuing, although this will certainly stunt its growth, while ILG is gone.
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