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Nov 15, 2012 | 2:43 pm

#181

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Originally Posted by vuittonsofstyle

Totally agree with you. Doesn't look as though Aman are venturing back, as Monty Brown has actually retired so is not, as rumoured, working on an Aman Hawaii. A GHM would be good, so let's hope it works out.

Monty was in Bora Bora few weeks ago. Not sure will he move back to here?

Nov 15, 2012 | 6:34 pm

#182

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Originally Posted by deer

Hey, in the press release there is talk of a Chedi Hawaii!!!
"Ando is also at work on a GHM property in Kona, Hawaii."

So Kage was right when he first mentioned it in February!

And one personal thing to add: Tadao Ando totally rocks. We visited his museums at Naoshima Island, and they were the most outstanding architectural experiences I ever had on the world...

Well I actually can't wait to see what ANDO has done for the DIAOYUTAI LAMA TEMPLE HOTEL ( at YONGHEGONG ) in Beijing. Suppose to open late 2012. But as of my last visit there ,3 weeks ago , still not yet stirred.

My biggest argggghhhh is its a MGM branded property ... R they kidding ? ,!!

I don't like anything ANDO has done so far including Sight 2121 Tokyo ... It all seems hard and indulgent ... I am more comfortable with his private houses than commercial stuff.

His Capella NISEKO was my long awaited hope of seeing a big scale property of his but that hasn't materialized

He is more popular/ treasured and championed by the western media thus his popularity and following there ...but frankly a yet to be proven entity , commercially or otherwise , and accepted.

Nov 30, 2012 | 4:52 pm

#183

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GHM hawaii >

(Citizen of the world was first, but post did not appear immediately. Citizen of the world also "broke" GHM cuba.)

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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri

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Originally Posted by Citizen of the world

GHM posted a press release on their website announcing a collaboration in Kona as well as a new hotel brand for China:

http://www.ghmhotels.com/en/ghm/home...ls-english,all

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Originally Posted by paul2

Update on new GHM resorts from The Gallivanters Guide on twitter:
https://twitter.com/#!/Gallivanters/...23773235400706

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In Kona, Hawaii GHM is collaborating with Pritzker Architecture Prize-winner Tadao Ando on the development of a new 32-villa property situated on a hardened flow of lava.

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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri

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The Kona design, for example, makes use of Ando's penchant for planes of exposed concrete and a topographically sensitive foundation.

somehow missed that earlier

renderings?
https://picasaweb.google.com/GHM.Kon...15816983544898
https://picasaweb.google.com/GHM.Kon...15817669892370

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Originally Posted by deer

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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri

http://m.ghmhotels.com/en/the-legian...hotels-english

"Ando is also at work on a GHM property in Kona, Hawaii."

...

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Originally Posted by vuittonsofstyle

Monty Brown has actually retired so is not, as rumoured, working on an Aman Hawaii

other possibilities include hotel bora bora and GHM hawaii

monty history >

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Originally Posted by FlyerEC

Monty moves to Hawaii to cover developments in that direction

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Originally Posted by ridefar

Monty (from Amanusa) is the GM [of hotel bora bora]

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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri

http://id.linkedin.com/pub/monty-brown/9/309/971 http://id.linkedin.com/pub/monty-brown/9/309/971

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Development Manager--Pacific
September 2011 – Present (6 months) Kamuela, Hawaii

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Originally Posted by FlyerEC

Monty B, who is now in Hawaii managing Aman projects from there

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Originally Posted by ridefar

When we were in Amanusa a year ago the GM (Monty Brewer???) was on his way to Bora Bora

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Originally Posted by vuittonsofstyle

Monty Brown. He was at Hotel Bora Bora for around 27 years, starting there as a barman and ending up as GM under Aman.

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Originally Posted by seiknujnama

Monty was in Bora Bora few weeks ago.

hawaii history >

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Originally Posted by bearbrick

closest Aman got to a property in Hawaii was the HANA MAUI ...at least after years of negotiations

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Originally Posted by bearbrick

Hopefully a second attempt at The Hana Maui

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Originally Posted by zigzag

Hana Maui has a new owner and name already as I too was hoping Amanresorts to come in and make it wonderful.

hana is 67 rooms and is now http://www.travaasa.com/

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Originally Posted by DavidO

Monty Brown, Aman's regional manager for Indonesia, related the following story which I think is quite illustrative. Michael Dell (owner of FS Hualalai and Kona Village Resort) once approached Amanresorts to redevelop and manage Kona Village Resort. Dell's idea was the make the resort a bit bigger. Aman's intention would be to make the resort smaller, and it was an immediate no-go decision for Aman.

kona was 125 rooms

no idea re aman/GHM hawaii, but there is at least a financial/office/etc presence there (in DLF fin docs)

***

aman fiji weve seen on gathy site IIRC
DLF 2008 annual report specifies "Yaukuve Island" (as well as chiang mai)
http://www.yaukuve.com/island/ no longer aman, 24 villas on 152 acres
http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowTopic...sort-Fiji.html suspended?

http://thetanai.strattons.com/ also suspended IIRC

nizuc (originally GHM) finally opening under http://www.brisashotelonline.com/

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Dec 3, 2012 | 1:52 pm

#184

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Wow what a downgrade for Nizuc! What a shame, it was going to be a nice place.
As far as I know GHM is owned by Hans Jenni and Adrian Zecha might have some part of it,,

Dec 6, 2012 | 1:22 pm

#185

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amanmara kenya 10 tents dated jun 1 2004
http://books.google.com/books?id=fQt...0kenya&f=false
article dated jul 6 2004 mentions environmental study

owner in article and DLF finances >
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post13303903
(article suggests dead)
mentioned in 2005 - http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/4270622-post32.html

other potential upcoming, if youre bored deer >
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/16803752-post159.html
in prior annual reports ownership stake to look for is 89.93%

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Dec 9, 2012 | 4:56 pm

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http://content.yudu.com/Library/A1wv...sources/66.htm
gathy interview lists projects >
2013 aman vinh hy
2013 palazzo papadopoli [aman]
2014 amanoca
2015 herdade de comporta development portugal [amanduna]

http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...ml#post5393687
http://www.stormworldwide.com/talei-...esort-ghm.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nananu-i-Ra
never happened, (600 acre) island on sale for $10mm >
http://www.departures-international....-solitude.html

aman vinh hy >
http://www.mgtmanagement.com/uploads...Ninh_Thuan.pdf
talks about vinh hy location having a lot of potential, sounds very undeveloped
http://www.mgtmanagement.com/uploads...s_Plan_2.0.pdf
talks specifically about upcoming logistics improvements, not done yet..

more aman vinh hy >
http://www.miamidesigndistrict.net/b...paradise-made/
well i just went through cultured magazine winter 2012, and didnt see story
i cant imagine skype interview resulting in quoting 18 words
so if anyone knows how the heck to find story/pics, guy is landscape designer who has done work for aman/ghm

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Dec 11, 2012 | 12:14 pm

#187

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No Aman Nevis...

...due to "differences of opinion", as tweeted by Gallivanter's: https://twitter.com/Gallivanters/sta...53276465680385

Sounds like the reason are the differences are between government and Zecha over the fuel dump, as found by Kagehitokiri some days ago:

"nevis >
http://www.thestkittsnevisobserver.c...l-storage.html
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October 12, 2012

Concerned Citizens Movement...Deputy Leader Hon. Mark Brantley...claiming Premier Joseph Parry has already revealed that the Aman Resort officials have said they will not continue if the fuel dump is allowed to proceed."

Dec 11, 2012 | 12:19 pm

#188

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Originally Posted by deer

No Aman Nevis...
...due to "differences of opinion", as tweeted by Gallivanter's: https://twitter.com/Gallivanters/sta...53276465680385

I would bet the differences are between government and Zecha...

maybe related to the fuel dump?

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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri

nevis >
http://www.thestkittsnevisobserver.c...l-storage.html

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October 12, 2012

Concerned Citizens Movement...Deputy Leader Hon. Mark Brantley...claiming Premier Joseph Parry has already revealed that the Aman Resort officials have said they will not continue if the fuel dump is allowed to proceed.

previously >
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post15597390
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post15648063
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/luxur...l#post15840560

design/location would have been interesting >

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Originally Posted by Kagehitokiri

full brochure - http://www.scribd.com/doc/61439394/Aman-Nevis-Resort
http://www.amannevis.com/
no oceanfront pavilions like yara (noca's will be close)
(nevis and noca are all pool like ruya and zoe, nevis actually says 12m)

Dec 11, 2012 | 7:31 pm

#189

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Was just told last night that Aman Jordan should be officially announced (location and all) within the next couple of months, and that opening should be in '13 ... already in build. Wouldn't say where, though my guess would be Wadi Rum.

Also went on to say that DLF will be re-taking control of the New Delhi property, so there will be no more Aman in "Aman New Delhi"; also happening sometime next year (2Q?)

Lastly -- Aman Peru! Did not get a timeframe though.

Dec 12, 2012 | 8:27 am

#190

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[QUOTE=aa213bb;19839645]Was just told last night that Aman Jordan should be officially announced (location and all) within the next couple of months, and that opening should be in '13 ... already in build. Wouldn't say where, though my guess would be Wadi Rum.

About time !
AZ mentioned awhile back, can't remember now what he told me . Did I mention in one of my earlier posts ?
Calling Kage

Dec 12, 2012 | 10:11 am

#191

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Ooops: GHM opens The Aayu’s in Mumbai in 2013!

Out of the blue, GHM announces a new hotel, opening Dec 2013 in Mumbay - and it sounds great:

- Called "The Aayu’s"
- Only 42 suites, so really intimate and possibly amanesque
- in the top floors of a 200-meter-high building
- overlooking historic Shivaji Park and the Arabian Sea to the west, and the island mainland to the east
- 50th floor rooftop bar
- one signature restaurant by Robouchon
- one more signature restaurant by japanese star chef Hide Yamamoto
- interior design by Jaya Ibrahim (Legian Bali, Chedi Muscat and Nam Hai)

http://www.ghmhotels.com/en/ghm/news...ls-english,all

Dec 12, 2012 | 12:25 pm

#192

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lots of jordan discussion.. multiple destinations

might be all new links, from gallivanters >
https://twitter.com/Gallivanters/sta...31120829964288
says aman dibbeen mock room, links owner site >
http://www.jdp.jo/index.php?q=en/node/128 "Aman...30-room...24 villa" on 61 acres
unfortunately not in english >
http://www.jdp.jo/index.php?q=en/node/34
http://www.jdp.jo/files/JDIB%20Agreement.pdf (dib = dibbeen?)
annual reports >
http://www.jdp.jo/index.php?q=en/node/45

GHM has upcoming delhi to replace aman (mentioned before)
(that DLF is keeping it has come up before)

mumbai was mentioned before as well, i discussed some in context of setai (maybe in that thread) because they actually announced that they were going to name it setai

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Dec 12, 2012 | 12:46 pm

#193

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Aman Venice early?

According to printed Gallivanter's Gossip, longtime-Aman Olivia Richli and Livio Ranza will open Aman Venice in the first quarter of 2013. I could not really believe this early date, but of course I would be happy indeed!

Dec 12, 2012 | 12:58 pm

#194

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More Ahn Luh

Also according to printed Gallivanter's Guide, GHMs new Ahn Luh brand is planning some more stuff:

- Ahn Luh Delta Island, Xunliao Bay, not far from Shenzen

- Ahn Luh Lhasa, Tibet

plus the two Ahn Luhs in Dujangyan and Beijing, which we mentioned earlier here.