Feds admit storing checkpoint body scan images
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Heard recently that very tall people stick out over the imaging area and that their head, arms, hands, and shoulders don't get processed. Sounds like another fail for TSA if this is accurate.
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Of course, it's not likely that I'd be going in the direction of a guilty verdict with TSA in any way involved in the first place. There are just too many variables there- poor training, some screeners being intellectually challenged, some screeners being morally challenged... There's simply no way to determine the bad apples and rotten apples from the handful of decent ones. That would create holes large enough to drive semi trucks through, as far as I'm concerned.
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I'd feel more comfortable if TSA just handed over one of their Pedophile Cancer Imagers as configured at airports to some independent third party who could either confirm or deny their ability to print, store, and/or transmit images as advertised by the TSA.
The independent third party could then pass the machine over to doctors and scientists for testing to verify radiation dosage information. A simple chain of custody could be kept at all times, allowing only cleared people to access the machine, should that become a concern of the paranoid in the agency.
Doing this would go a long way to clearing many valid concerns about this equipment. How about it, Bob? Does the TSA have the guts to turn over one of their Perv-O-Matics for some independent analysis?
The independent third party could then pass the machine over to doctors and scientists for testing to verify radiation dosage information. A simple chain of custody could be kept at all times, allowing only cleared people to access the machine, should that become a concern of the paranoid in the agency.
Doing this would go a long way to clearing many valid concerns about this equipment. How about it, Bob? Does the TSA have the guts to turn over one of their Perv-O-Matics for some independent analysis?
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That's very hard to believe given this excerpt from the cNet / Privacy Inc article linked to above:
"A 70-page document showing the TSA's procurement specifications, classified as 'sensitive security information,' says that in some modes the scanner must 'allow exporting of image data in real time' and provide a mechanism for "high-speed transfer of image data" over the network. (It also says that image filters will 'protect the identity, modesty, and privacy of the passenger.')"
Bolding is mine.
It makes no sense to have a surveillance device that generates evidence of criminal behavior but cannot store it for reference by prosecutors.
This article, currently being bannered atop the Drudge Report and therefore read by millions, shows the federal government has been lying.
"A 70-page document showing the TSA's procurement specifications, classified as 'sensitive security information,' says that in some modes the scanner must 'allow exporting of image data in real time' and provide a mechanism for "high-speed transfer of image data" over the network. (It also says that image filters will 'protect the identity, modesty, and privacy of the passenger.')"
Bolding is mine.
It makes no sense to have a surveillance device that generates evidence of criminal behavior but cannot store it for reference by prosecutors.
This article, currently being bannered atop the Drudge Report and therefore read by millions, shows the federal government has been lying.
So this means the image can be transmitted over the network to another storage device?
So when you say the machine cannot print the image that is true. But whats to stop the image being printed somewhere else?
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60? Ha, the number would be a single digit.
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But seeing isn't really the problem, is it? If such a prosthetic is seen by the nice chap in the private room, he can't tell if it is in fact an implant or, say, a penis bomb. So the implant will now have to be "cleared" (by mechanisms you must know about and which are being kept secret from us). How would you like to have your implant inspected?
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TSA has not and will not store images.
All imaging technology machines are delivered to airports for operational use without the capability to store, print or transmit images. There is no way for someone in the airport environment to put the machine into a mode to retain images.
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All imaging technology machines are delivered to airports for operational use without the capability to store, print or transmit images. There is no way for someone in the airport environment to put the machine into a mode to retain images.
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Originally Posted by Bob at the TSA Blog, Feb 3 2010
These pictures were provided to TSA by the vendor. I have never claimed they are the exact size and resolution that our officers see. I have provided video examples showing what our officers see. I have requested the resolution and size and was told it was proprietary information that I could not release. I'm still looking into being able to get that info for you, but I can't promise anything.
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But seeing isn't really the problem, is it? If such a prosthetic is seen by the nice chap in the private room, he can't tell if it is in fact an implant or, say, a penis bomb. So the implant will now have to be "cleared" (by mechanisms you must know about and which are being kept secret from us). How would you like to have your implant inspected?
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Wouldn't you think that there are more sexual perverts in the TSA than there are terrorists at US airports? Yet the TSA doesn't worry about sex perverts in the TSA anywhere as much as the TSA worries about mythical terrorists at US airports.
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