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Hagbard Viking Feb 9, 2007 8:07 am

Longhaul strategy?
 
From e-mail sent out 12 January:

"The routes from Copenhagen to Beijing and Shanghai will continue as before. In total we offer 14 flights per week between Scandinavia and China."

From press release dated 30 January:

"SAS has an extensive route network between Scandinavia and China. SAS will operate ten flights a week to Beijing Airport and from September 2007 traffic will be strengthened with additional departures from both Stockholm and Copenhagen.
[...]
SAS has decided to reorganize its traffic to China and will discontinue flights to Shanghai's Pudong International Airport from April 8."

From press release dated 8 Feburary:

"Both business and leisure travelers are showing widespread interest in Bangkok. Therefore, Scandinavian Airlines (SAS) will launch a new route from Stockholm to Bangkok at the end of October 2007. This route will be operated three times a week in both directions in addition to the already existing service between Copenhagen and Bangkok.
[...]
SAS will continue to operate Copenhagen to Bangkok with the usual high frequency."

Info "leaked" on 9 February:

"Due to some schedule changes of SK972/SK973 CPH-BKK-CPH during the period of 09APR07-31AUG07 passengers will be rebooked/involuntary rerouted to other SK-operating flights.
[...]
Following flights during the period of 09APR07-31AUG07 will be cancelled and passengers will be rebooked/involuntary rerouted by SK to other SK-flights as specified below..."

and, finally, just a note: either they are planning two evening departures from ARN to Asia on certain days of the week or they will not increase frequencies on ARN-PEK in the fall as advertised 30 January...

3tflyer Feb 9, 2007 8:22 am

And they will cancel some of the flights CPH - PEK march - sept. What a mess!:confused:http://www.sassalesinfo.com/sassi/0,...%253D2,00.html

Helsinki Flyer Feb 9, 2007 8:48 am

I wouldn´t call these actions implementing a strategy. :confused:

Hagbard Viking Feb 9, 2007 8:51 am


Originally Posted by Helsinki Flyer (Post 7191026)
I wouldn´t call these actions implementing a strategy. :confused:

I agree, that's what the question mark was for...

AHO Feb 9, 2007 9:54 am

If SAS continues this kind of strategy, they will soon start ARN-NRT again. :rolleyes:

Seriously, it seems there are power politics among SAS DK/NO/SE.
One gets new intercon route, another loses. (at least frequency wise)

miikka Feb 9, 2007 11:33 am

Maybe it is a new strategy: Guess where we are flying this month? :D

amarbokhari Feb 9, 2007 11:41 am

...and still no sight of any intercontinental service between new york and oslo...

miikka Feb 9, 2007 11:43 am


Originally Posted by amarbokhari (Post 7192263)
...and still no sight of any intercontinental service between new york and oslo...

It will come - they just need to figure out what route to end to get the new route. They just do not have the planes.

Hagbard Viking Feb 9, 2007 11:46 am


Originally Posted by miikka (Post 7192201)
Maybe it is a new strategy: Guess where we are flying this month? :D

Or even better, perhaps the passengers could vote after boarding on where to go. Such a concept could also be combined with the new "more benefits for frequent flyers" strategy, if you are EBS your vote counts double, triple for EBG. :)

Hagbard Viking Feb 9, 2007 11:48 am


Originally Posted by amarbokhari (Post 7192263)
...and still no sight of any intercontinental service between new york and oslo...

Why New York? Wouldn't IAD or ORD from OSL make more sense?

Point_Chaser Feb 9, 2007 12:24 pm

One thing Mats sadly pointed out in his presentations yesterday was that there are currently no plans for new intercont planes... "As it looks today..."

Robbiedeluxe Feb 9, 2007 1:45 pm

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Originally Posted by Hagbard Viking

Originally Posted by amarbokhari (Post 7192263)
...and still no sight of any intercontinental service between new york and oslo...



Why New York? Wouldn't IAD or ORD from OSL make more sense?

Why NYC? To get back the 'stolen pax' from CO? ;)

Hagbard Viking Feb 9, 2007 1:58 pm


Originally Posted by Robbiedeluxe (Post 7193165)
Why NYC? To get back the 'stolen pax' from CO? ;)

Yeah, but I'm guessing that CO 'stole' not only NYC bound pax but North America bound pax in general. EWR is a megahub for CO but a dead-end for SK. Flying into IAD or ORD would open up for Star connections...

GetAA81Back2ARN Feb 10, 2007 2:26 am


Originally Posted by Hagbard Viking (Post 7193261)
Yeah, but I'm guessing that CO 'stole' not only NYC bound pax but North America bound pax in general. EWR is a megahub for CO but a dead-end for SK. Flying into IAD or ORD would open up for Star connections...

Flew ARN-EWR the other day. Before landing you can see connection information. 12 flights were listed: 9 on CO, 1 on UA and 2 on US. There were probably more connections to be made than that but not listed for various reasons, but EWR is not and will not be a good airport for switiching to *A-partners unless you want to go to their hubs (DEN, ORD, IAD, PHL, CLT) as a final destination.

gnaget Feb 10, 2007 1:16 pm


Originally Posted by GetAA81Back2ARN (Post 7196355)
Flew ARN-EWR the other day. Before landing you can see connection information. 12 flights were listed: 9 on CO, 1 on UA and 2 on US. There were probably more connections to be made than that but not listed for various reasons, but EWR is not and will not be a good airport for switiching to *A-partners unless you want to go to their hubs (DEN, ORD, IAD, PHL, CLT) as a final destination.

Also LAX, SFO, PIT and PHX. And YUL and YYZ on Air Canada......

Although, I see that there is only a single daily LAX flight in the morning..... so scratch LAX.


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