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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 6:06 am
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Originally Posted by Shareholder
I raised this a few months ago and since then have booked an Aeroplan award ticket with several SK segments (EWR-CPH-OSL) and there was no fuel surcharge as SK now includes this in the ticket price, not as an add-on like most other carriers. This means the STAR partner does not have to tack this fee onto an award ticket. That, plus the lowering of the charges associated with entering Europe at CPH, made the total cost of my award ticket less than U$100, a rarity these days.
I think SK didn't include the fuel surcharge in the taxes for Eurobonus award tickets last year, either. However, yesterday a strange thing happened. I booked an award ticket from Copenhagen to Tokyo for 40k points (a special offer), and the taxes mentioned on the payment site were 36 euros. I booked the flight, but then the confirmation page said "Fare: 81 euros + Taxes: 36 euros". So far all my Eurobonus awards didn't include any "fare". Where do 81 euros come from, I wonder. It's not much, but is it okay to change the final price after I clicked on "confirm payment"? I don't know why this should be so, but perhaps the reason is that I'm based in the Netherlands, while the trip starts in CPH (had to buy a separate AMS-CPH ticket later).
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 7:14 am
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Originally Posted by krzysz
I booked an award ticket from Copenhagen to Tokyo for 40k points (a special offer), and the taxes mentioned on the payment site were 36 euros. I booked the flight, but then the confirmation page said "Fare: 81 euros + Taxes: 36 euros". So far all my Eurobonus awards didn't include any "fare". Where do 81 euros come from, I wonder.
Often lately the 'special offers' are of this new cash + points variety. Perhaps that's what it was but you didn't notice it?

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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 8:14 am
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Originally Posted by henry999
Often lately the 'special offers' are of this new cash + points variety. Perhaps that's what it was but you didn't notice it?

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No, it was this nice offer:
http://www.flyertalk.com/forum/showthread.php?t=537034
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 8:17 am
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Call EB and ask (and report back here pls...)
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 8:36 am
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Originally Posted by SK_RSJ
Call EB and ask (and report back here pls...)
I called the internet support today, and they told me to call EB tomorrow morning, because they can't touch the booking themselves. The booking looks fine, though.

By the way, the resevation was ticketed immediately after I booked it (some time after midnight). I received an e-mail with an itinerary in the pdf format, which included the ticket number (117 ...etc), issued in Amsterdam.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 2:05 pm
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Originally Posted by Shareholder
What exactly was your experience? One should have the same access to award seats on STAR flights with UA/MP as we do with other programs. It is true that UA charges you less than many other programs for the same trips, and that it does have to pay STAR carriers, whereas it only does an internal transfer for seats on its flight, but I've never faced the problem with Aeroplan and often find it is easier to get award seats on STAR carriers flying to the same destination that it is getting seats on AC flights.
It was last August when I tried to book *A award on PEK-ICN-NGO r/t on OZ by using my UA miles and my GF's LH miles.

LH said there are at least two award seats both out- & intbound, while UA said there is no OZ award seat at all.

Aeroplan Online Award Booking showed me there were 3 award seats available.

I told to UA agent that there should be at least 2 award seats available. but she said "no availability".

Wait, now I've found something wired.
When I check now(2006-03-26 23:00 CET) OSL-LYR on 04AUG and LYR-OSL on 07 AUG at ANA web site, I can find SK award seat in Biz.
Originally Posted by ANA web site
Awards Business
8/4 (FR)
SK4412
Oslo 09:25 Longyearbyen 13:55

8/4 (FR)
SK4496
Oslo 22:00 Longyearbyen 00:50+1

8/7 (MO)
SK4425
Longyearbyen 14:55 Oslo 19:10
But at the same time, SAS EB site shows there is no availability at all on the routes.
It seems SAS limits/block their award seat to their own member, but give it to other *A partner's member.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 2:59 pm
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Originally Posted by AHO
Wait, now I've found something wired.
When I check now(2006-03-26 23:00 CET) OSL-LYR on 04AUG and LYR-OSL on 07 AUG at ANA web site, I can find SK award seat in Biz.

But at the same time, SAS EB site shows there is no availability at all on the routes. It seems SAS limits/block their award seat to their own member, but give it to other *A partner's member.
Does SK offer biz inventory for award flights domestic Norway? They do it intra-scandinavian where you can effectively increase options by paying more (kind of similar to the FlyingBlue OpenMiles -- all revenue seats can be had for awards if you pay double).

It might be that the LYR seats in domestic C (what a self-contradiction) can be had if you book it CPH-OSL-TOS-LYR and pay the intra-scandinavian C price.
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Old Mar 26, 2006 | 11:24 pm
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I've just called EB. They said that because of a problem on the SAS website, my credit card was charged more than it should, and the 81 euros mentioned above will be transfered back to me.

And yes, SAS offers C-seats for award flights between OSL and LYR. I noticed that some time ago while trying to make a booking.
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 1:22 am
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You can only use I-class (Business) Domestic SE, NO DK and Fi if you continue to another country in Business-class on the award tickets. You cannot only use Domestic flights in "business-class" on awards.
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 2:37 am
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Originally Posted by Balboa
You can only use I-class (Business) Domestic SE, NO DK and Fi if you continue to another country in Business-class on the award tickets. You cannot only use Domestic flights in "business-class" on awards.
Thank you, Balboa. I have learned something new today!
It seems it only works when international segments are involved (ie. CPH-OSL).
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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 4:46 am
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Originally Posted by Balboa
You can only use I-class (Business) Domestic SE, NO DK and Fi if you continue to another country in Business-class on the award tickets. You cannot only use Domestic flights in "business-class" on awards.
Actually, that is not correct. You CAN use business class awards on purely domestic flights (without any previous or ongoing international connection). For intra-Scand and domestic flights within Norway and Sweden it's 12 K EB points in M-class and 20 K EB points in C. The only exception to this rule is domestic flights in Denmark, where it isn't possible to have a C-class award on a domestic flight without a previous or ongoing international flight.

Sure, there is no C-class cabin on intra-Scand flights or domestic flights within Scand, but the C-class award ticket on intra Scand flights and domestic flights within Norway and Sweden gives you the right to carry 30 kilos instead of 20, to check in at C-class counters and to use the business lounge.

SORRY SORRY SORRY. I'm wrong. It has changed since some time ago. Balboa is absolutely correct. It is not longer possible to have C class awards with a domestic flight wihtout an ongoing international connection.

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Old Mar 27, 2006 | 7:04 am
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True mate, I actually remember that when booking my first award in -98 that I got that option to buy it for 20.000..but..I took the train instead
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Old May 5, 2006 | 7:03 am
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Hiya people!
Another addition to the "maximizing *A award"-thread. What do you think?

The woman at EB memberservice didn't actually think my itinerary was valid/possible when I called, she was very sceptical but I was persistent and she eventually told me she would check and call me back in 15 mins.
Well after 45 mins she calls me back and tells me "you have really found the loophole in Eurobonus, I'm impressed...!!"

So here is goes:

Monday
Sydney-Wellington
NZ 744, 17:15-23:25
A320 (Business Class)

Tuesday
One day in Wellington

Wellington-Auckland
NZ 460, 18:00-19:00
B733 (one class only)

Auckland-Rarotonga (Cook islands)
NZ 848, 21:00-02:00
A320 (Business class)

Passing date line between AKL and RAR

One day on Cook Islands

Tuesday
Rarotonga-Papeete (Tahiti/French Polynesia)
NZ 022, 23:15-01:00
B763 (Business class)

Two days in French Polynesia

Friday
Papeete-Auckland
NZ 041, 02:30-07:35
B763 (Business class)

Passing date line again between PPT and AKL

Saturday
Auckland-Christchurch
NZ 547, 17:00-18:20
B733 (one class only)

One day in Christchurch

Sunday
Christchurch-Sydney
NZ 783, 16:00-17:30
A320 (Business class)

Price: 40000 points (and SEK 2000 in taxes)

Total travel distance: 8598 miles (Great Circle Mapper)
Total travel time: Around 20 hours (18 hours in C, 2 hours domestic M)

Only drawback is the stupid timetable of NZ on their Polynesian flights, but well, I'm not going to complain too much this time...

Many thanks to AHO for the tips about ANA and their award availability page!!! Very useful!
I managed 7 segments as well (was told 8 segments is the limit).
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Old May 5, 2006 | 8:11 am
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Congratulations on your fun trip! The most I did was crossing Sweden three times one way by flying CPH-ARN-OSL-HEL and back for 12000. For that trip one of the agents refused to book me, saying she though I was up to something bad since noone in their right mind would do that. She actually was pretty rude, but next agent was wonderful! Have fun jacob_m!
Originally Posted by jacob_m
Hiya people!
Another addition to the "maximizing *A award"-thread. What do you think?

The woman at EB memberservice didn't actually think my itinerary was valid/possible when I called, she was very sceptical but I was persistent and she eventually told me she would check and call me back in 15 mins.
Well after 45 mins she calls me back and tells me "you have really found the loophole in Eurobonus, I'm impressed...!!"

So here is goes:

Monday
Sydney-Wellington
NZ 744, 17:15-23:25
A320 (Business Class)

Tuesday
One day in Wellington

Wellington-Auckland
NZ 460, 18:00-19:00
B733 (one class only)

Auckland-Rarotonga (Cook islands)
NZ 848, 21:00-02:00
A320 (Business class)

Passing date line between AKL and RAR

One day on Cook Islands

Tuesday
Rarotonga-Papeete (Tahiti/French Polynesia)
NZ 022, 23:15-01:00
B763 (Business class)

Two days in French Polynesia

Friday
Papeete-Auckland
NZ 041, 02:30-07:35
B763 (Business class)

Passing date line again between PPT and AKL

Saturday
Auckland-Christchurch
NZ 547, 17:00-18:20
B733 (one class only)

One day in Christchurch

Sunday
Christchurch-Sydney
NZ 783, 16:00-17:30
A320 (Business class)

Price: 40000 points (and SEK 2000 in taxes)

Total travel distance: 8598 miles (Great Circle Mapper)
Total travel time: Around 20 hours (18 hours in C, 2 hours domestic M)

Only drawback is the stupid timetable of NZ on their Polynesian flights, but well, I'm not going to complain too much this time...

Many thanks to AHO for the tips about ANA and their award availability page!!! Very useful!
I managed 7 segments as well (was told 8 segments is the limit).
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Old May 5, 2006 | 9:17 am
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Good job ^ ^

How did you mange that - I would have thought that a trip like that would be impossible for a "* Pacific return award"?
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