Sympathetic strike?
Jun 21, 2022, 7:57 am
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Sympathetic strike?
Jun 21, 2022, 8:30 am
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Solidarity above and below the wing.
Whereas the proposed pilots' strike would likely only affect "mainline" SAS, a mechanics' strike has the potential to affect SAS Connect as well, because both fly Airbus aircraft that are maintained by the same mechanics.
Whereas the proposed pilots' strike would likely only affect "mainline" SAS, a mechanics' strike has the potential to affect SAS Connect as well, because both fly Airbus aircraft that are maintained by the same mechanics.
Jun 21, 2022, 11:50 am
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I can't stop thinking some of these people might be doing shorts on SAS shares. Why would people do that if they know their employer might not be able to pay for their wages and they are too well compensated?
Jun 21, 2022, 5:28 pm
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Jun 27, 2022, 3:32 am
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I'm still baffled that governments let this happen, the value of functional international air connections is apparently wildly misunderstood by politicians.
Jun 27, 2022, 6:49 am
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A mix of pure capitalist mindset (let the market regulate it, we won't touch it) and the usual socialism (power to the people, the unions are fighting the good fight for the exploited and downtrodden against the big bad corporations)
Jun 28, 2022, 3:33 am
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But the people need a functional airline with as much direct reach as possible. Its not power to the people in many of these disputes, it is power to the employees. The majority of Scandinavian people would be helped by lower cost airfare, a better airfare product and more direct routes from their incumbent airline. The reality is that the unions are fighting the battle for the overpayed and entitled as opposed to helping anyone and the status quo they intent to keep leads to bankrupting the airline that the people and economies need. All because governments haven't updated the powers of unions to modern times so they keep operating with a one-sided power balance.
Jun 28, 2022, 6:02 am
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Yeah, fully agreed.... with "power for the people" I tried to say "the employees". Somehow the opinion that employees are being universally exploited by the big bad corporations is kind of accepted. Which on a case by case basis might be true, but in general for most Europeans not really true. We live in a world where you get "Likes" on LinkedIn whining about your perceived burn out because business requires you to work 5 days a week and the world is mean...
And yeah, I don't even think unions fight for the overpaid and entitled... they fight for themselves and the fat cats on the top of the unions which love power and money.
And yeah, I don't even think unions fight for the overpaid and entitled... they fight for themselves and the fat cats on the top of the unions which love power and money.
Jun 30, 2022, 6:42 am
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Unions are an outdated concept that are no longer relevant and applicable to modern day employment where people have plenty of choice and options for alternative employment.
Jun 30, 2022, 9:26 am
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True, and I always opted out becoming a union member when I signed up for a new job. But in Sweden, still most big companies will only give you a 1 page offer letter which then has a footnote "all terms and conditions are inline with the union agreements". It is VERY difficult to get an individual contract which is not bound to union agreements in big companies in the Nordics.
Jun 30, 2022, 12:33 pm
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True, and I always opted out becoming a union member when I signed up for a new job. But in Sweden, still most big companies will only give you a 1 page offer letter which then has a footnote "all terms and conditions are inline with the union agreements". It is VERY difficult to get an individual contract which is not bound to union agreements in big companies in the Nordics.
The Swedish union system in general is a lot more flexible than the works council system in Germany though. It's not even close.
Jun 30, 2022, 12:40 pm
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I'd argue unions are outdated for certain areas of work. Modern day employment still has factory workers being subject to questionable labor agreements.
Jun 30, 2022, 4:10 pm
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There is indeed still a very relevant role and objectives for unions, but the unions sometimes struggle to understand those are smaller than they used to be.
Jul 1, 2022, 4:45 am
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Well, that might the general idea but I do not share that opinion. If I want to work for a company and I am not member of a union, I should be free to negotiate with the company the terms of my employment. Sure there are enough people who are happy that the unions take care of that but for those who want to manage own their own, I don't think unions should interfere. Which they do as they claim "individual agreements made will weaken the tariff and agreements between unions and the employer" and will in general do whatever they can to make it difficult for the company and individuals to come to an individual agreement
Which funny enough is never a problem for senior exec positions... but just for the "plebs".
Which funny enough is never a problem for senior exec positions... but just for the "plebs".
Jul 2, 2022, 6:49 am
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That is not true at all. Unions are the only thing that keeps employers from purely predatory behavior. Sometimes they overreach, as in the SAS case, but mostly they play the game.