SAS Youth Fares [FAQ & Discussions]
Aug 3, 2018, 5:03 am
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I think you are very much a FTer at heart, nothing wrong with that
! As always, book what you are willing to accept and try to game the rest (bumps, op-ups, paid upgrades, etc.). Sometimes it works, and you love it. When it doesn't, just keep searching for the next one. As it happens, these upgrades were essentially based on old SAS "kids fly free" deal that earned both our kids A3 Gold. If you were considering youth tickets to get Life Time Gold, you need to check my mileage run for kids thread
.They have maintained *G since then and it makes op-ups much more common.
There is one other surefire way to get an op-up for us, which involves meeting Oliver2002 before/during a trip. I think we are batting 100% on op-ups when crossing his path. Paging Oliver2002, were you in Chicago this week?
! As always, book what you are willing to accept and try to game the rest (bumps, op-ups, paid upgrades, etc.). Sometimes it works, and you love it. When it doesn't, just keep searching for the next one. As it happens, these upgrades were essentially based on old SAS "kids fly free" deal that earned both our kids A3 Gold. If you were considering youth tickets to get Life Time Gold, you need to check my mileage run for kids thread.They have maintained *G since then and it makes op-ups much more common.There is one other surefire way to get an op-up for us, which involves meeting Oliver2002 before/during a trip. I think we are batting 100% on op-ups when crossing his path. Paging Oliver2002, were you in Chicago this week?
Aug 3, 2018, 6:42 am
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Nope haven't been stateside since March. BTW, I usually observe that Lufthansa pursers do onboard upgrades of minors into C when there is space. Once there was a 13/14 year old girl on my flight who was accompanied by her mother to the lounge and gate in DTW. The fact that a female minor was travelling alone without UM service/attention was extremely confusing for the lounge, gate and flight attendants. The purser made her sit in business, saying in German to her collegaues "I'm not letting anyone near her on my watch on a night flight". The girl was a little annoyed/embarrased for being treated like a baby, but soon swapped that for the joy of flying business. When I asked the purser she mentioned that normally UMs are seated near the stations where FAs can keep an eye on them should they need anything. In this case the girl was seated somewhere in the cabin and she was afraid the FA on watch would not normally look out for her.
Sep 4, 2018, 1:41 am
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It seems to me that SAS has put an unofficial requirement that Youth fares to/from the US must be booked roundtrip. For the past year I've been looking at this, I haven't found any availability for o/w fares, whereas the availability will show up as soon as searching roundtrip. Too bad.
Mar 11, 2019, 7:22 am
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I just wanted to pass on an observation on how youth fares have changed, at least for ARN/CPH/MMX-ORD. I usually send our kids to the US twice per year and this year noticed that tickets were not released as they have been in the past. More specifically, the availability over summer holidays and winter break have not been released early. After searching for tickets over the summer since last October, I saw last night that tickets were finally released for mid-June to mid-August. While I am grateful that they were eventually released, it made planning a bit more difficult. Other school holidays (sportlov and höstlov) have seen normal availability, so no changes there.
Another change that I noted was the cost of the youth tickets was higher (3500-->5000kr for CPH-ORD-CPH) if the outbound was in the last week of June through mid-August. I have not seen this two-tier pricing for youth tickets before. Fortunately the dates did not matter much and the kids could fly on the cheaper tickets, but it is something to consider moving forward as the price difference is significantly higher...albeit still cheaper than an adult ticket. Also, I did not see the price increase during höstlov (did not check winter break as we are booked using points).
Availability and price are still fine for most of the year, but SAS seems to be changing to program to make it difficult for families over summer. Let's see if this gets expanded in the future, which would sadly make the point of the youth tickets meaningless as their travel patterns are generally limited by school/university.
Another change that I noted was the cost of the youth tickets was higher (3500-->5000kr for CPH-ORD-CPH) if the outbound was in the last week of June through mid-August. I have not seen this two-tier pricing for youth tickets before. Fortunately the dates did not matter much and the kids could fly on the cheaper tickets, but it is something to consider moving forward as the price difference is significantly higher...albeit still cheaper than an adult ticket. Also, I did not see the price increase during höstlov (did not check winter break as we are booked using points).
Availability and price are still fine for most of the year, but SAS seems to be changing to program to make it difficult for families over summer. Let's see if this gets expanded in the future, which would sadly make the point of the youth tickets meaningless as their travel patterns are generally limited by school/university.
Mar 11, 2019, 8:59 am
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It seems the YTH fares also have a light version:
Code:
11MAR19**11MAR19/SK CPHCHI/NSP;AT/TPM 4262/MPM 5114
LN FARE BASIS OW DKK RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
01+CDKOW 27700 C - - - + - - - R
02+CDKBIZ 46167 C - - - + - - - R
03+C1DKBIZ 39907 C - - - + 2 - - R
04+DDKBIZ 32197 D - - - + - - - R
05+YDKOW 12655 Y - - - + - - - R
06+ZDKBIZ 24312 Z + - - + + + - R
07+YDKXTRA 21092 Y - - - + - - - R
08+Z1DKBIZ 20992 Z + - - +28+ + - R
09+EDKOW 8887 E - - - + - - - R
10+SDKXTRA 16092 S - - - + - - - R
11+EDKECO 14812 E - - - + - - - R
12+BDKXTRA 11370 B + - - + + + - R
13+MLDKECO 10450 M - S12AUG 19JUN+ + + - R
14+HLDKECO 8450 H - S12AUG 19JUN+ + + - R
15+PLDKXTRA 7890 P + S12AUG 19JUN+ + + - R
16+QLDKECO 6850 Q NRF S12AUG 19JUN+ + + - R
17+VLWDKECO 5875 V NRF S12AUG 19JUN+ + + - R
18+VLXDKECO 5505 V NRF S12AUG 19JUN+ + + - R
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11MAR19**11MAR19/SK CPHCHI/NSP;AT/TPM 4262/MPM 5114
LN FARE BASIS OW DKK RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
19+ALDKXTRA 5390 A + S12AUG 19JUN+ + + - R
20+WLWDKECO 4875 W NRF S12AUG 19JUN+ + + - R
21+WLXDKECO 4505 W NRF S12AUG 19JUN+ + + - R
22+ULWDKECO 3855 U NRF S12AUG 19JUN+ + + - R
23+KLWDKECO 3755 K NRF S12AUG 19JUN+ + + - R
24+ULXDKECO 3605 U NRF S12AUG 19JUN+ + + - R
25+KLXDKECO 3505 K NRF S12AUG 19JUN+ + + - R
26+LLWDKECO 3155 L NRF S12AUG 19JUN+ + + - R
27+KLWDKGHT 3155 K NRF S12AUG 19JUN+ + + - R
28+LLXDKECO 2905 L NRF S12AUG 19JUN+ + + - R
29+KLXDKGHT 2905 K NRF S12AUG 19JUN+ + + - R
30+TJWDKECO 2747 T NRF S01NOV 31MAR+ + + - R
B31MAR O31MAR
C15APR -
31+LLWDKGHT 2555 L NRF S12AUG 19JUN+ + + - R
32+TJXDKECO 2497 T NRF S01NOV 31MAR+ + + - R
B31MAR O31MAR
C15APR -
33+LLXDKGHT 2305 L NRF S12AUG 19JUN+ + + - R
> PAGE 3/ 4
>m
11MAR19**11MAR19/SK CPHCHI/NSP;AT/TPM 4262/MPM 5114
LN FARE BASIS OW DKK RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
34+TJWDKGHT 2147 T NRF S01NOV 31MAR+ + + - R
B31MAR O31MAR
C15APR -
35+TJXDKGHT 1897 T NRF S01NOV 31MAR+ + + - R
B31MAR O31MAR
C15APR -
36+OLZZRT 870 O NRF S12AUG 24JUN+ + - - R
37+OLZZGHT 270 O NRF S12AUG 24JUN+ + - - R
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>fqn36
FQN36
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
11MAR19**11MAR19/SK CPHCHI/NSP;AT/TPM 4262/MPM 5114
LN FARE BASIS OW DKK RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
36+OLZZRT 870 O NRF S12AUG 24JUN+ + - - R
FCL: OLZZRT TRF: 1 RULE: YTHT BK: O
PTC: YTH-YOUTH CONFIRMED FTC: PSZ-YOUTH/STUDENT PROMOTIONAL
STU-STUDENT
FARE FAMILY : YOUTHSMART
FARE FAMILY DESCRIPTION: SAS YOUTH GO SMART
RU.RULE APPLICATION
SAS YOUTH GO SMART
APPLICATION
AREA
THESE FARES APPLY
FROM AREA 2 TO AREA 1.
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
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>fqn37
FQN37
** RULES DISPLAY ** XF MAY APPLY
OTHER TAX MAY APPLY
SURCHG MAY APPLY-CK RULE
11MAR19**11MAR19/SK CPHCHI/NSP;AT/TPM 4262/MPM 5114
LN FARE BASIS OW DKK RT B PEN DATES/DAYS AP MIN MAX R
37+OLZZGHT 270 O NRF S12AUG 24JUN+ + - - R
FCL: OLZZGHT TRF: 1 RULE: ZZGL BK: O
PTC: YTH-YOUTH CONFIRMED FTC: PSZ-YOUTH/STUDENT PROMOTIONAL
STU-STUDENT
FARE FAMILY : YOUTHLIGHT
FARE FAMILY DESCRIPTION: SAS YOUTH GO LIGHT
RU.RULE APPLICATION
SAS YOUTH GO LIGHT
APPLICATION
AREA
THESE FARES APPLY
FROM AREA 2 TO AREA 1.
CLASS OF SERVICE
THESE FARES APPLY FOR ECONOMY CLASS SERVICE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
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Mar 11, 2019, 1:17 pm
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Yes, that is true. I have sadly gotten used to Light fares and didn't pay close attention, but the costs I referred to were for the Light fares. I tried to check the price of the Youth GO just now...but sas.se cannot find any youth tickets now
. Seems to be another IT bug.
Edit: Just checked. The higher prices are still Youth Go Light, so there seems to be a two tier pricing for summer. It even affects inbound flight even if it is outside of the high season period.
. Seems to be another IT bug.Edit: Just checked. The higher prices are still Youth Go Light, so there seems to be a two tier pricing for summer. It even affects inbound flight even if it is outside of the high season period.
Last edited by livious; Mar 11, 2019 at 1:22 pm
Mar 11, 2019, 1:49 pm
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Yes the seasons are shown n the overview. This fare set is not meant for younger kids to visit grandparents during peak vacation but for student types to fly when normal people don't. I.e.fill the cabin in low/shoulder seasons.
Mar 11, 2019, 2:18 pm
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Well, it would be most helpful if SAS managed to put out cheap fares whenever I need to travel. Fortunately SAS does not fully understand how much I will pay to gain a few weeks holidays from my teenagers
As it turns out, the kids will travel 3 times to the US on youth fares...so I am still interested to see how things change and might affect next year. I need them to renew their *A Gold as my wife looks to lose hers
I just wanted to highlight that there seems to have been a change this year in the pricing over summer. There likely aren't a ton of us on Flyertalk that bother with youth tickets, but it has been interesting to follow how SAS model has evolved. First the stopped one way fares, then added light fares and now start to implement a two tier pricing.
. Fortunately SAS does not fully understand how much I will pay to gain a few weeks holidays from my teenagers As it turns out, the kids will travel 3 times to the US on youth fares...so I am still interested to see how things change and might affect next year. I need them to renew their *A Gold as my wife looks to lose hersI just wanted to highlight that there seems to have been a change this year in the pricing over summer. There likely aren't a ton of us on Flyertalk that bother with youth tickets, but it has been interesting to follow how SAS model has evolved. First the stopped one way fares, then added light fares and now start to implement a two tier pricing.
Mar 12, 2019, 4:58 am
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I just wanted to highlight that there seems to have been a change this year in the pricing over summer. There likely aren't a ton of us on Flyertalk that bother with youth tickets, but it has been interesting to follow how SAS model has evolved. First the stopped one way fares, then added light fares and now start to implement a two tier pricing.
Mar 12, 2019, 9:26 am
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Now you pay 2400 DKK with no luggage, and something like 500 points. And if you add the checked luggage you're fare class doesn't change and you end up paying something like 3000 DKK and still earn 500 points. So in total you pay more, and get less points than what you used to. The only reason people would keep buying the ticket would be for the direct flight.
And for the European flights, the prices have risen as well. It's cheaper to book during the never ending campaigns on a normal adult ticket.
I have ended up only booking private flights during the SAS Family and Friends campaign which runs usually twice a year. If you know someone at SAS be sure not to miss those.
Mar 12, 2019, 12:35 pm
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For TATL almost all airlines have check bag charge nowadays. LH and UA are giving out *G 1 free bag "for the time being" which means it will go away. It's a real PITA for leisure travellers.
I have seen pages publishing regular fare by LH group from CPH to the East coast as low as EUR 180, so youth fare definitely seems expensive.
I have seen pages publishing regular fare by LH group from CPH to the East coast as low as EUR 180, so youth fare definitely seems expensive.
Mar 12, 2019, 12:47 pm
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Yes, on a light ticket:
Source: https://www.lufthansa.com/at/en/economy-light-fare
When booking the Economy Light fare, a fee for checked baggage also applies to Miles & More status customers and Star Alliance Gold members. As a gesture of goodwill, for the time being HON Circle Members, Senators and Star Alliance Gold members can, however, take one piece of baggage up to 23 kg free of charge. This goodwill gesture applies exclusively at the airport check-in counter. When booking a piece of baggage e.g. online or at a travel agency, a baggage charge applies.
Mar 12, 2019, 12:48 pm
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They do!
https://www.lufthansa.com/de/en/economy-light-fare
Edit: Wow, we are currently really active in this forum… 3 posts in 4 minutes. And I was one minute too late.
When booking the Economy Light fare, a fee for checked baggage also applies to Miles & More status customers and Star Alliance Gold members. As a gesture of goodwill, for the time being HON Circle Members, Senators and Star Alliance Gold members can, however, take one piece of baggage up to 23 kg free of charge. This goodwill gesture applies exclusively at the airport check-in counter.
Edit: Wow, we are currently really active in this forum… 3 posts in 4 minutes. And I was one minute too late.
Jan 21, 2023, 10:29 am
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Need to purchase 6 TATL and 3 intra-EU Youth tickets across various dates over this summer. For the TATL portion (mid-June outbound with late-June return; late-June outbound with mid-July return; and mid-June outbound with mid-July return), it seems like the latest return date is June 15. Upthread, it seems like tickets may not drop until March, does that still sound correct?