Using only return leg of SK GO ticket.
Sep 21, 2013, 6:58 am
#1
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Koala Lemur
Programs: SK EBD LTG (*G)
Posts: 2,447
Using only return leg of SK GO ticket.
Hi. It turns out that I can't use the outbound leg of a cheap SK ticket, but I would very much like to use the return leg. I realized that I have never tried to do this trick on SK. I did once on LH 3-4 years ago and it worked to my surprise. Does anybody has experience with this on SK?
I checked the ticket rules and can't find anything about using all the segments in order. Any opinions? Do I have to buy a new ticket.
I checked the ticket rules and can't find anything about using all the segments in order. Any opinions? Do I have to buy a new ticket.
Code:
1 - PSGR P1 ADT RULES DISPLAY
FARE COMPONENT 1 ADT ______ SK TPLRTM PU 1 S
FCL: TPLRTM TRF: 21 RULE: EMO2 BK: T
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XPV-INST PURCH NONREF 2ND LVL
RU.RULE APPLICATION
SAS GO
CLASS OF SERVICE ECONOMY
APPLICATION
AREA
THESE FARES APPLY
WITHIN EUROPE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
FARES ONLY APPLY IF PURCHASED BEFORE DEPARTURE.
EXCEPTION -
FARES MAY BE USED FOR ENROUTE UPGRADING FROM
A LOWER SK ECONOMY CLASS FARE PROVIDED THAT ALL
CONDITIONS OF THE NEW FARE ARE MET.
>
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED
ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH
FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS.
THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE
AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE
CARRIERS BEST JUDGMENT
AP.ADVANCE RES/TKT
RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.
WAITLIST NOT PERMITTED.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 1 DAY AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 2 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE
WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
OR - RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS AND TICKETING MUST BE
COMPLETED AT THE SAME TIME.
WAITLIST NOT PERMITTED.
NOTE -
WARNING-
ALL RESERVATIONS MADE WITHOUT TICKET NUMBER WILL
>
BE CANCELLED AUTOMATICALLY AFTER TICKETING
DEADLINE.
FL.FLT APPLICATION
FOR TPLRTM TYPE FARES
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY SK FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH.
CD.CHILD DISCOUNTS
FROM/TO AREA 2
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT
BY ADULT 16 OR OLDER
OR - 1ST INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
>
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 16 OR OLDER
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 16 OR OLDER
OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
NOTE -
1. UNACCOMPANIED MINOR UNDER 5 WILL NOT BE
ACCEPTED FOR CARRIAGE.
2. YOUNG PASSENGER 12-15 PAYING 100 PCT OF THE
FARE MAY REQUEST ASSISTANCE AT A CHARGE - SEE
SURCHARGE IN SU CATEGORY.
SO.STOPOVERS
NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED
TF.TRANSFERS/RTGS
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON
>
THE FARE COMPONENT.
SU.SURCHARGES
IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11.
A SURCHARGE OF EUR 40.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO
THE APPLICABLE FARE PER CHILD/INFANT FOR TRAVEL.
NOTE -
IF YOUNG PSGR 12-15 REQUESTING ASSISTANCE
A SURCHARGE OF EUR 40.00 PER YOUNG PSGR AND PER
DIRECTION SHALL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE
PER YOUNG PSGR.
------
SURCHARGE FOR YOUNG PSGR 12-15 SHALL BE ADDED
AS Q IN FARE CONSTRUCTION LINE.
TE.TKT ENDORSEMENT
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED -
RESTR APPLY PER FARE COMP/ - AND - NONREF - IN THE
ENDORSEMENT BOX.
>
PE.PENALTIES
FOR TPLRTM TYPE FARES
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
NOTE -
WHEN COMBINING ON A HALF ROUNDTRIP BASIS THE
PENALTY CONDITIONS FOR EACH FARE COMPONENT APPLY.
----------------------
FOR RESERVATIONS MADE ON/AFTER 14SEP11
FUEL SURCHARGE/YQ IS NON-REFUNDABLE
CHANGES
CHANGES PERMITTED.
NOTE -
ORIGIN/DESTINATION OF THE FARE COMPONENT MAY NOT
BE CHANGED.
>
CHANGES IN SAME BOOKINGCLASS AS TICKETED
CHARGE EUR 60 PER DIRECTION - FOR AUTOMATIC
REISSUE THE PENALTY FEE MUST BE COLLECTED ON AN
EMD/MCO.
FOR MANUAL REISSUE ON AN EMD/MCO OR AS A DU
TAX.
WHICH MUST REMAIN NON-REFUNDABLE.
CHILD DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY.
INFANTS FREE OF CHARGE.
UPGRADING ONLY PERMITTED TO A HIGHER SK CARRIER
FARE UP TO AND INCLUDING C-CLASS -
CHARGE EUR 60 PER DIRECTION AND CHARGE THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FARE PAID AND THE HIGHER
UPGRADE SECTOR.
REBOOKING/REISSUE/PAYMENT OF FEE AND FARE
DIFFERENCE MUST BE MADE IN ONE TRANSACTION
NOT LATER THAN 1 HOURS BEFORE DEPARTURE
OF EITHER THE FLIGHT BEING CHANGED OR THE NEW
FLIGHT WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED -
THE ORIGINAL FARE PAID REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE.
>
----------------------------------------------
WHEN COMBINING ON A HALF ROUNDTRIP BASIS THE
PENALTY CONDITIONS FOR EACH FARE COMPONENT APPLY.
---------------------------------------------
FOR TRAVEL TO RUSSIA
FULL REFUND PERMITTED BEFORE DEPARTURE IN CASE OF
REJECTIONS OF VISA. EMBASSY STATEMENT REQUIRED.
CO.COMBINABILITY
CIRCLE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED.
APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER SK/BM/KF/BT/
OS/OV/WF/LH/LO/LX/TP/JP/OU/FI IN ANY RULE IN THIS
>
TARIFF.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC FARES.
VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY -HAPPY/-HAPPYK/-HAPPYS TYPE
FARES FOR CARRIER WF WITHIN NORWAY.
VC.VOLUNTARY CHANGES
VOLUNTARY CHANGES CONDITIONS MAY APPLY FOR AUTOMATED
REISSUE/REVALIDATION
REFER TO PENALTIES CATEGORY *PE FOR DETAILS
VR.VOLUNTARY REFUNDS
VOLUNTARY CHANGES CONDITIONS MAY APPLY FOR AUTOMATED REFUNDS
REFER TO PENALTIES CATEGORY *PE FOR DETAILS
>
1 - PSGR P1 ADT RULES DISPLAY
FARE COMPONENT 2 ADT _____ SK TPLRTM PU 1 S
FCL: TPLRTM TRF: 21 RULE: EMO2 BK: T
PTC: ADT-ADULT FTC: XPV-INST PURCH NONREF 2ND LVL
RU.RULE APPLICATION
SAS GO
CLASS OF SERVICE ECONOMY
APPLICATION
AREA
THESE FARES APPLY
WITHIN EUROPE.
TYPES OF TRANSPORTATION
FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE CAN BE USED TO CREATE
ONE-WAY/ROUND-TRIP/OPEN-JAW JOURNEYS.
FARES ONLY APPLY IF PURCHASED BEFORE DEPARTURE.
EXCEPTION -
FARES MAY BE USED FOR ENROUTE UPGRADING FROM
A LOWER SK ECONOMY CLASS FARE PROVIDED THAT ALL
CONDITIONS OF THE NEW FARE ARE MET.
>
CAPACITY LIMITATIONS
THE CARRIER SHALL LIMIT THE NUMBER OF PASSENGERS CARRIED
ON ANY ONE FLIGHT AT FARES GOVERNED BY THIS RULE AND SUCH
FARES WILL NOT NECESSARILY BE AVAILABLE ON ALL FLIGHTS.
THE NUMBER OF SEATS WHICH THE CARRIER SHALL MAKE
AVAILABLE ON A GIVEN FLIGHT WILL BE DETERMINED BY THE
CARRIERS BEST JUDGMENT
AP.ADVANCE RES/TKT
RESERVATIONS ARE REQUIRED FOR ALL SECTORS.
WAITLIST NOT PERMITTED.
TICKETING MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 1 DAY AFTER
RESERVATIONS ARE MADE OR AT LEAST 2 DAYS BEFORE DEPARTURE
WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
OR - RESERVATIONS FOR ALL SECTORS AND TICKETING MUST BE
COMPLETED AT THE SAME TIME.
WAITLIST NOT PERMITTED.
NOTE -
WARNING-
ALL RESERVATIONS MADE WITHOUT TICKET NUMBER WILL
>
BE CANCELLED AUTOMATICALLY AFTER TICKETING
DEADLINE.
FL.FLT APPLICATION
FOR TPLRTM TYPE FARES
THE FARE COMPONENT MUST NOT BE ON
ONE OR MORE OF THE FOLLOWING
ANY SK FLIGHT OPERATED BY LH.
CD.CHILD DISCOUNTS
FROM/TO AREA 2
ACCOMPANIED CHILD 2-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE FARE.
TICKETING CODE - BASE FARE CODE PLUS CH.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME COMPARTMENT
BY ADULT 16 OR OLDER
OR - 1ST INFANT UNDER 2 WITHOUT A SEAT - CHARGE 10 PERCENT
OF THE FARE.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
>
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 16 OR OLDER
OR - INFANT UNDER 2 WITH A SEAT - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
MUST BE ACCOMPANIED ON ALL FLIGHTS IN SAME
COMPARTMENT BY ADULT 16 OR OLDER
OR - UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11 - CHARGE 75 PERCENT OF THE
FARE.
NOTE -
1. UNACCOMPANIED MINOR UNDER 5 WILL NOT BE
ACCEPTED FOR CARRIAGE.
2. YOUNG PASSENGER 12-15 PAYING 100 PCT OF THE
FARE MAY REQUEST ASSISTANCE AT A CHARGE - SEE
SURCHARGE IN SU CATEGORY.
SO.STOPOVERS
NO STOPOVERS PERMITTED
TF.TRANSFERS/RTGS
UNLIMITED TRANSFERS PERMITTED ON THE PRICING UNIT
FARE BREAK AND EMBEDDED SURFACE SECTORS NOT PERMITTED ON
>
THE FARE COMPONENT.
SU.SURCHARGES
IF UNACCOMPANIED CHILD 5-11.
A SURCHARGE OF EUR 40.00 PER DIRECTION WILL BE ADDED TO
THE APPLICABLE FARE PER CHILD/INFANT FOR TRAVEL.
NOTE -
IF YOUNG PSGR 12-15 REQUESTING ASSISTANCE
A SURCHARGE OF EUR 40.00 PER YOUNG PSGR AND PER
DIRECTION SHALL BE ADDED TO THE APPLICABLE FARE
PER YOUNG PSGR.
------
SURCHARGE FOR YOUNG PSGR 12-15 SHALL BE ADDED
AS Q IN FARE CONSTRUCTION LINE.
TE.TKT ENDORSEMENT
THE ORIGINAL AND THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED -
RESTR APPLY PER FARE COMP/ - AND - NONREF - IN THE
ENDORSEMENT BOX.
>
PE.PENALTIES
FOR TPLRTM TYPE FARES
CANCELLATIONS
ANY TIME
TICKET IS NON-REFUNDABLE.
NOTE -
WHEN COMBINING ON A HALF ROUNDTRIP BASIS THE
PENALTY CONDITIONS FOR EACH FARE COMPONENT APPLY.
----------------------
FOR RESERVATIONS MADE ON/AFTER 14SEP11
FUEL SURCHARGE/YQ IS NON-REFUNDABLE
CHANGES
CHANGES PERMITTED.
NOTE -
ORIGIN/DESTINATION OF THE FARE COMPONENT MAY NOT
BE CHANGED.
>
CHANGES IN SAME BOOKINGCLASS AS TICKETED
CHARGE EUR 60 PER DIRECTION - FOR AUTOMATIC
REISSUE THE PENALTY FEE MUST BE COLLECTED ON AN
EMD/MCO.
FOR MANUAL REISSUE ON AN EMD/MCO OR AS A DU
TAX.
WHICH MUST REMAIN NON-REFUNDABLE.
CHILD DISCOUNT DOES NOT APPLY.
INFANTS FREE OF CHARGE.
UPGRADING ONLY PERMITTED TO A HIGHER SK CARRIER
FARE UP TO AND INCLUDING C-CLASS -
CHARGE EUR 60 PER DIRECTION AND CHARGE THE
DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE FARE PAID AND THE HIGHER
UPGRADE SECTOR.
REBOOKING/REISSUE/PAYMENT OF FEE AND FARE
DIFFERENCE MUST BE MADE IN ONE TRANSACTION
NOT LATER THAN 1 HOURS BEFORE DEPARTURE
OF EITHER THE FLIGHT BEING CHANGED OR THE NEW
FLIGHT WHICHEVER IS EARLIER.
THE REISSUED TICKET MUST BE ANNOTATED -
THE ORIGINAL FARE PAID REMAINS NON-REFUNDABLE.
>
----------------------------------------------
WHEN COMBINING ON A HALF ROUNDTRIP BASIS THE
PENALTY CONDITIONS FOR EACH FARE COMPONENT APPLY.
---------------------------------------------
FOR TRAVEL TO RUSSIA
FULL REFUND PERMITTED BEFORE DEPARTURE IN CASE OF
REJECTIONS OF VISA. EMBASSY STATEMENT REQUIRED.
CO.COMBINABILITY
CIRCLE TRIPS NOT PERMITTED.
APPLICABLE ADD-ON CONSTRUCTION IS ADDRESSED IN
MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS - CATEGORY 23.
OPEN JAWS/ROUND TRIPS
FARES MAY BE COMBINED ON A HALF ROUND TRIP BASIS
-TO FORM SINGLE OR DOUBLE OPEN JAWS.
MILEAGE OF THE OPEN SEGMENT MUST BE EQUAL/LESS THAN
MILEAGE OF THE LONGEST FLOWN FARE COMPONENT.
-TO FORM ROUND TRIPS
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY FARE FOR CARRIER SK/BM/KF/BT/
OS/OV/WF/LH/LO/LX/TP/JP/OU/FI IN ANY RULE IN THIS
>
TARIFF.
END-ON-END
END-ON-END COMBINATIONS PERMITTED WITH DOMESTIC FARES.
VALIDATE ALL FARE COMPONENTS. SIDE TRIPS PERMITTED.
PROVIDED -
COMBINATIONS ARE WITH ANY -HAPPY/-HAPPYK/-HAPPYS TYPE
FARES FOR CARRIER WF WITHIN NORWAY.
VC.VOLUNTARY CHANGES
VOLUNTARY CHANGES CONDITIONS MAY APPLY FOR AUTOMATED
REISSUE/REVALIDATION
REFER TO PENALTIES CATEGORY *PE FOR DETAILS
VR.VOLUNTARY REFUNDS
VOLUNTARY CHANGES CONDITIONS MAY APPLY FOR AUTOMATED REFUNDS
REFER TO PENALTIES CATEGORY *PE FOR DETAILS
>
Sep 21, 2013, 7:14 am
#2
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 23
good question. I only used an outbound segment recently and the ticketing employee mentioned that it was not a problem if I was not going to use the return segment and just to ignore it/not show up, but I don't know what official policy is.
Sep 21, 2013, 10:39 am
#3
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Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Koala Lemur
Programs: SK EBD LTG (*G)
Posts: 2,447
Instead of taking the risk of cancellation of my inbound leg and standing in the airport with no ticket, I called EBG hotline in Sweden today and asked. I hit a very nice, polite and service minded agent, who tried her best (it took a quite a few minutes of consultation with her supervisor, while I was on hold). She cancelled the first leg of my reservation, while retaining the inbound leg, despite this being a non-refundable ticket. So now I hold a one way ticket, and I am safe. All at no cost. I have to say that this is a very good service from SK! I have no idea how standard it was, and whether they would offer the same if I were not an EBG.
(this contrasts with LH's practice, whom I have heard threatening passengers a few times that their credit cards will be charged extra fees, if they only use the first segment of tickets, and do a non-show on the inbound leg.)
(this contrasts with LH's practice, whom I have heard threatening passengers a few times that their credit cards will be charged extra fees, if they only use the first segment of tickets, and do a non-show on the inbound leg.)
Sep 21, 2013, 11:14 am
#4
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: HEL
Programs: *G, used to be with TK but left due to their corruption and political ties
Posts: 4,408
The reason SK is more flexible than LH is their pricing structure. SK works with one-way fares within Europe whereas LH uses return fares (some exceptions of course). If you had bought your return as a one way you would have paid the same or less, so SK loses no revenue by cancelling your outbound. Instead they free up a seat for sale.
If the price of your return had been higher than your total ticket, then they must likely hadn't allowed this as it would be a way for you to cheat the system. Thus, I don't think SK is as flexible on intercontinental journeys where they don't work with one-way fares to the same extent.
experience has been exactly the same as yours. I believe it is even a SK policy to allow this on the European market as long as you cancel your outbound first.
If the price of your return had been higher than your total ticket, then they must likely hadn't allowed this as it would be a way for you to cheat the system. Thus, I don't think SK is as flexible on intercontinental journeys where they don't work with one-way fares to the same extent.
experience has been exactly the same as yours. I believe it is even a SK policy to allow this on the European market as long as you cancel your outbound first.
Sep 22, 2013, 2:51 am
#5
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Location: Koala Lemur
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Good to know. This is likely to happen again.
Yes. I have based my high hopes for this exactly on the fare structure that seems to be extremely flexible with SK on European strucutre, essentially operating on one-way basis. This was one of the main reasons for switching from LO to SK for most of my flights. I hate all sorts of "not-combinable" fare restrictions on LO/LH and alikes.
You are also right that I would not expect this to happen on an intercontinental ticket. Fortunately for me my intercontinental trips are for most of the time quite predictable. It is the let's schedule a meeting in "Berlin" in 3 days in advance that tends to kill my European itineraries. I think it is good that SK has a fare structure that facilitates easy changes quite well. I also noticed, that, in principle, DY has easily changeable tickets, etc. So in this sense Scandinavian market seems healthy.
Yes. I have based my high hopes for this exactly on the fare structure that seems to be extremely flexible with SK on European strucutre, essentially operating on one-way basis. This was one of the main reasons for switching from LO to SK for most of my flights. I hate all sorts of "not-combinable" fare restrictions on LO/LH and alikes.
You are also right that I would not expect this to happen on an intercontinental ticket. Fortunately for me my intercontinental trips are for most of the time quite predictable. It is the let's schedule a meeting in "Berlin" in 3 days in advance that tends to kill my European itineraries. I think it is good that SK has a fare structure that facilitates easy changes quite well. I also noticed, that, in principle, DY has easily changeable tickets, etc. So in this sense Scandinavian market seems healthy.
Sep 23, 2013, 4:17 pm
#6
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: CPH
Programs: SK-EBD
Posts: 1,273
Has never been an issue with SAS - at least not intra-Europe.
This weekend my wife couldn't use her outbound leg, which we were going to do together in the samme booking, due to a business trip, so to be sure, I told the agent this at my check in. She said thank you for telling. And no problems at our common return flight.
This weekend my wife couldn't use her outbound leg, which we were going to do together in the samme booking, due to a business trip, so to be sure, I told the agent this at my check in. She said thank you for telling. And no problems at our common return flight.