Ryanair: Caught Napping
Feb 14, 2006 | 10:11 am
#76
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isn't it a requirement that they all have life jackets?
valujet was wiped out in the US by a crash and ryanair's traffic and stock value would surely plummet in the event of one.
Last edited by colmc; Feb 14, 2006 at 4:54 pm
Feb 14, 2006 | 1:39 pm
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I was talking to my friend that was cabin crew with ryanair about the programme this evening and she reiterated the fact that when the training course costs were met by the company, things were tough. If people failed their daily exams and tests, the trainers would get everyone together and humiliate those that failed by sacking them in front of all the trainees. 
Now that's bad craic in my opinion. You wouldn't catch me working for them, especially after what my neighbour has said about Michael O'Leary. She set up the ryanair offices over at Hahn in Germany when they first began that route and certainly hasn't sang his praises about the way he treats his staff.............she doesn't work for them anymore!
Now that's bad craic in my opinion. You wouldn't catch me working for them, especially after what my neighbour has said about Michael O'Leary. She set up the ryanair offices over at Hahn in Germany when they first began that route and certainly hasn't sang his praises about the way he treats his staff.............she doesn't work for them anymore!
Feb 14, 2006 | 1:59 pm
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Originally Posted by colmc
Yes, and they do. In the 738's the lifejackets are overhead, not under the seats. They can be stolen from how I understand it.
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Feb 14, 2006 | 2:23 pm
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OT: but why do BA make you tie your life jacket in a double bow at the side, as opposed to having hooks or clasps like everyone else? Surely they would be easier in an emergency (not that you'll have much chance to use it in a ditching of course).
Feb 14, 2006 | 2:27 pm
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Originally Posted by LHR Tim
OT: but why do BA make you tie your life jacket in a double bow at the side,
Feb 14, 2006 | 2:34 pm
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Originally Posted by LHR Tim
OT: but why do BA make you tie your life jacket in a double bow at the side, as opposed to having hooks or clasps like everyone else? Surely they would be easier in an emergency (not that you'll have much chance to use it in a ditching of course).
still i say.. water landing + jet liner = certain doom
Feb 14, 2006 | 5:01 pm
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US airlines do not have to have lifevests or rafts if they don't operate over the ocean (I think there's a small amount allowed for coastal airports.)
If you land in a lake, it's just you and the seat cushion.
By the way, Southwest has just introduced lifevests on its aircraft, to take advantage of routes over the Gulf of Mexico. There's some discussion in this in the Southwest forum, as the F/A briefing now includes the lifevests on all flights, not just those operating over the ocean.
If you land in a lake, it's just you and the seat cushion.
By the way, Southwest has just introduced lifevests on its aircraft, to take advantage of routes over the Gulf of Mexico. There's some discussion in this in the Southwest forum, as the F/A briefing now includes the lifevests on all flights, not just those operating over the ocean.
Feb 15, 2006 | 2:33 am
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Originally Posted by smashmouth
still i say.. water landing + jet liner = certain doom
Feb 15, 2006 | 2:38 am
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Originally Posted by LHR Tim
OT: but why do BA make you tie your life jacket in a double bow at the side, as opposed to having hooks or clasps like everyone else? Surely they would be easier in an emergency (not that you'll have much chance to use it in a ditching of course).
Feb 15, 2006 | 2:54 am
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An explosive decompression would have resulted in the loss of Concorde....'explosive' being the operative word. Whether or not your blood boiled would be academic as the aircraft would probably cease to be 'a viable flying machine'.
However, a decompression in the normal sense (cabin leak, window blowout) would in all likelyhood not have been fatal, and there were procedures in place for this....oxy masks on, immediate descent (at points at a rate of 15,000ft/min), rapid pumping of fuel forwards to maintain CofG, that sort of thing.
In fact, the airconditioning system on Concorde was so sophisticated that it could maintain a liveable altitude inside the cabin whilst at 60,000ft with two windows blown out....
However, a decompression in the normal sense (cabin leak, window blowout) would in all likelyhood not have been fatal, and there were procedures in place for this....oxy masks on, immediate descent (at points at a rate of 15,000ft/min), rapid pumping of fuel forwards to maintain CofG, that sort of thing.
In fact, the airconditioning system on Concorde was so sophisticated that it could maintain a liveable altitude inside the cabin whilst at 60,000ft with two windows blown out....
Feb 15, 2006 | 3:32 am
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ValuJet had a history of accidents, faults and god knows what - nothing like Ryanair in the least.
valujet was wiped out in the US by a crash and ryanair's traffic and stock value would surely plummet in the event of one.
Feb 15, 2006 | 3:37 am
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Originally Posted by LHR Tim
I think you'll find that on a lot of the US airlines -- UA is not alone. They do have aircraft that are designated 'over water' (i.e. 757's that do the HNL run).
Makes you want to be damn sure your upgrade clears so you get a bit more flotation
BTW, where's Spotty on all of this. Would have thought he'd be feasting on this one for days!
Makes you want to be damn sure your upgrade clears so you get a bit more flotation
BTW, where's Spotty on all of this. Would have thought he'd be feasting on this one for days!
Feb 15, 2006 | 4:16 am
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...and that awful crash in the Everglades was brought about by the company's transporting undeclared oxygen canisters which caught fire in the cargo hold, the heat of which severed the link between the cockpit controls and the flaps/rudder.
Feb 15, 2006 | 4:35 am
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If you've got a spare few minutes, this makes for VERY interesting reading... http://www.ryanair.com/site/EN/inpag...ner=DISPATCHES
It is scanned in copies of all the communications between Channel 4 (representatives of) and Ryanair.
It is scanned in copies of all the communications between Channel 4 (representatives of) and Ryanair.