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hugolover Jan 12, 2019 8:26 am

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Dynamic pricing for the priority and bags now...

£8 for priority pre-booked during the booking process now. I'm sure it used to be fixed £6.00.

So I guess its now £10 if you select it AFTER booking.

However, while the £8 screenshot is EDI-KRK, that was definitely £6 last week.

PIK-RZE is £6 at this time.

BruceyBonus Jan 12, 2019 10:35 am

Looks like the fees list (https://www.ryanair.com/gb/en/useful...lp-centre/fees) has been updated to show Priority plus 2 bags has changed from £6 to £6-£10; and 10kg check in from £8 to £10-£12.

Price increase without an announcement.

corporate-wage-slave Jan 12, 2019 11:52 am

The tabloid press in the UK picked this up, similar stories in the Sun and Mirror. Nothing in the Independent though, and that was surprising.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/travel/t...gage-fees.html

It was indeed fixed at £6 no matter how long or short the flight, now it seems like £6 for one hour flights, £8 for 2 hours, £10 for anything longer, or thereabouts, e.g EDI-LIS.

I was on LDY-EDI on Thursday, this is one of Ryanair's shorter flights so you'd imagine fewer bags generally. There were exactly 60 passengers with Priority Boarding and 47 without it. Just one tiny bag was placed in the trolley by the aircraft from one of those without PB, presumably a second bag went on the aircraft. A few months ago before these changes there would have been perhaps 20 in PB, 87 without. Ryanair's Plus, FlexiPlus and Business fares have Priority Boarding included, so it's a bit difficult to separate it all out.

LDY-EDI will stay at £6.

fartoomanyusers Jan 12, 2019 12:07 pm


Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 30645928)
I was on LDY-EDI on Thursday

omg - CWS slumming it with the rest of us on FR :)

i flew FR this morning. saw a couple of wheelies in the non-priority queue. didn't see any payments being taken. flight was far from full.

i reckon well over half the people on this flight had PB - although that may have only been half the plane. i do wonder whether FR really do limit PB to half the plane ?!

corporate-wage-slave Jan 12, 2019 12:17 pm


Originally Posted by fartoomanyusers (Post 30645961)
i do wonder whether FR really do limit PB to half the plane ?!

No, it's limited to 90 passengers, which is what the 737s will take in terms of overhead locker space. Hence 56% of passengers in LDY had "priority".

fartoomanyusers Jan 12, 2019 2:24 pm


Originally Posted by corporate-wage-slave (Post 30645989)
No, it's limited to 90 passengers, which is what the 737s will take in terms of overhead locker space. Hence 56% of passengers in LDY had "priority".

according to the original publicity (FAQ 13):
Priority Boarding is capped at 95 customers per flight (out of 189 guests)

although now they've changed the fee - maybe they've trimmed the number down to 90 instead of 95 !

MixalisK. Jan 13, 2019 12:08 am

Flight from london to thessaloniki was diverted cause of bad weather. They finally dumb the passengers in... Timisoara, Romania.
https://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/20...loniki-greece/

Im a new user Jan 13, 2019 6:47 am


Originally Posted by MixalisK. (Post 30647787)
Flight from london to thessaloniki was diverted cause of bad weather. They finally dumb the passengers in... Timisoara, Romania.
https://www.keeptalkinggreece.com/20...loniki-greece/

I wonder what compensation these people are entitled to under Regulation 261/2004.

Originally Posted by Article 5
An operating air carrier shall not be obliged to pay compensation in accordance with Article 7, if it can prove that the cancellation is caused by extraordinary circumstances which could not have been avoided even if all reasonable measures had been taken.

Somehow I doubt that "all reasonable measures ha[ve] been taken" if Ryanair can't be contacted until the next morning and then only offers a bus ride which takes 22 hours, although the original weather-related reason seems to have been something extraordinary.

Originally Posted by Article 9
1. Where reference is made to this Article, passengers shall be offered free of charge:

(a) meals and refreshments in a reasonable relation to the waiting time;

(b) hotel accommodation in cases

- where a stay of one or more nights becomes necessary, or

- where a stay additional to that intended by the passenger becomes necessary;

Rather than offering hotel rooms and food, it sounds as if Ryanair made themselves unreachable. Also, some of Ryanair's passengers might not have had the assets to pay for a hotel using their own money, so some of them might not have booked a hotel room for that reason. Somehow, I doubt that Ryanair can get away from the obligation to provide hotel rooms and food by confusing the passengers about what they are supposed to do. Is a cash amount due in this situation, and if so, how is the cash amount to be determined?

Originally Posted by Article 10
Upgrading and downgrading

1. If an operating air carrier places a passenger in a class higher than that for which the ticket was purchased, it may not request any supplementary payment.

2. If an operating air carrier places a passenger in a class lower than that for which the ticket was purchased, it shall within seven days, by the means provided for in Article 7(3), reimburse

(b) 50 % of the price of the ticket for all intra-Community flights of more than 1500 kilometres, except flights between the European territory of the Member States and the French overseas departments, and for all other flights between 1500 and 3500 kilometres, or

Is a direct flight a higher class of travel than a flight to the wrong airport followed by a 22-hour bus ride?

hugolover Jan 13, 2019 8:10 am

With PIK-RZE longer than EDI-KRK, and both longer than an hour, it obviously isn’t just based on length and is more than likely also based on market forces.

corporate-wage-slave Jan 13, 2019 10:56 am


Originally Posted by hugolover (Post 30648730)
With PIK-RZE longer than EDI-KRK, and both longer than an hour, it obviously isn’t just based on length and is more than likely also based on market forces.

More interesting than that it seems: PIK-RZE is £8 on all flights until 23 February inclusive, and then from 26 February and onwards it drops to £6. It seems detached from the fares since within that period you can have higher fares on £6 and lower fares on £8. The RZE service then stops on 30 March, and switches to Bydgoszcz, and stays at £6.

There's something similar on EDI-KRK, so they get £6 from 21 March (which has a £130 fare on that particular day as it happens), hence a different date, with £8 on all fares on and before 19 March.

MixalisK. Jan 14, 2019 12:40 am


Originally Posted by Some person (Post 30648520)
I wonder what compensation these people are entitled to under Regulation 261/2004.Somehow I doubt that "all reasonable measures ha[ve] been taken" if Ryanair can't be contacted until the next morning and then only offers a bus ride which takes 22 hours, although the original weather-related reason seems to have been something extraordinary.Rather than offering hotel rooms and food, it sounds as if Ryanair made themselves unreachable. Also, some of Ryanair's passengers might not have had the assets to pay for a hotel using their own money, so some of them might not have booked a hotel room for that reason. Somehow, I doubt that Ryanair can get away from the obligation to provide hotel rooms and food by confusing the passengers about what they are supposed to do. Is a cash amount due in this situation, and if so, how is the cash amount to be determined?Is a direct flight a higher class of travel than a flight to the wrong airport followed by a 22-hour bus ride?

What i know is that the Minister of transportation ordered charted Aegean flight to pick them up next day.
Not to mention that Thessaloniki airport was fully operational that day.

Xandrios Jan 14, 2019 2:20 pm

The government is the one entity able to press Ryanair to do whats right. But no, they decide to hire an expensive Aegean flight on the taxpayers money. It's obvious elections are soon..

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Last week I purchased the priority option for an existing booking ATH-EIN, which was 8 euro (6 euro at booking). Now it has increased to 10 euro at booking, presumably 12 euro later on. Thats almost double the price!

cockpitvisit Jan 21, 2019 11:47 am

Just a question about Ryanair and taxes - are all taxes included in the ticket price, or will they hit you with a separate invoice for taxes after you book the flight?

Some ticket prices they show on the website (e.g. 4.99 EUR for SXF-PMI on some days) are lower than the German departure tax of 7.46 EUR - how can this work?

BruceyBonus Jan 21, 2019 12:41 pm


Originally Posted by cockpitvisit (Post 30682358)
Just a question about Ryanair and taxes - are all taxes included in the ticket price, or will they hit you with a separate invoice for taxes after you book the flight?

Some ticket prices they show on the website (e.g. 4.99 EUR for SXF-PMI on some days) are lower than the German departure tax of 7.46 EUR - how can this work?

Taxes are included - the price you see is the price you pay. They may bill you later if the government increase or add taxes, but that's quite rare.

There are many cases of flights departing the UK where the fare is much lower than the Air Passenger Duty.

Im a new user Jan 21, 2019 5:23 pm


Originally Posted by cockpitvisit (Post 30682358)
Some ticket prices they show on the website (e.g. 4.99 EUR for SXF-PMI on some days) are lower than the German departure tax of 7.46 EUR - how can this work?

They assume that there is a significant probability that you will have to pay for an extra service such as more luggage, or that you will have missed something in the fine print so that they can charge you extra for e.g. not checking in online or bringing too much luggage, or that you will also book a return flight with them which you pay more for.

MELso Jan 21, 2019 5:49 pm


Originally Posted by cockpitvisit (Post 30682358)
Just a question about Ryanair and taxes - are all taxes included in the ticket price, or will they hit you with a separate invoice for taxes after you book the flight?

Some ticket prices they show on the website (e.g. 4.99 EUR for SXF-PMI on some days) are lower than the German departure tax of 7.46 EUR - how can this work?

As mentioned, all taxes are included.

Wondering why you see 'Fares from [insert absurdly low price]' plastered all over their site? This is their loss leader and is no different from retailers putting out a catalogue with a few items being sold at a deep discount. But being a low cost carrier, the fare is only part of the story. You want a bag? Ka-ching. Seat assignment? Ka-ching. Food on board? Ka-ching. Didn't print your boarding pass? Ka-ching. The list goes on because LCCs make a lot of their revenue from ancillary charges...

farci Jan 22, 2019 7:02 am


Originally Posted by MELso (Post 30683653)
As mentioned, all taxes are included.

Wondering why you see 'Fares from [insert absurdly low price]' plastered all over their site? This is their loss leader and is no different from retailers putting out a catalogue with a few items being sold at a deep discount. But being a low cost carrier, the fare is only part of the story. You want a bag? Ka-ching. Seat assignment? Ka-ching. Food on board? Ka-ching. Didn't print your boarding pass? Ka-ching. The list goes on because LCCs make a lot of their revenue from ancillary charges...

In the last six months Ryanair billed €1.15 billion for ancillary charges. Don't feel sorry for them!

FlightNurse Jan 23, 2019 4:37 pm

So in March will be taking Ryan Air from DUB-EDI, I Choose the most popular which allows a carry on and check baggage, however, I'll have my roller and backpack with me and a check baggages, how does Ryan Air handle this? I'm assuming I'll have to pay for the second carry on, if so how much?

highpeaklad Jan 23, 2019 6:22 pm

If you mean a plus fare that includes priority, 2 cabin bags and 20kg hold luggage so your cabin bags should be included.
Just check it fits their size regulation and 10kg weight limit. If your second item is too large it will have to be gate checked at up to €40. If that’s the case you may be better off paying in advance for an extra hold bag at €25.
See: https://www.ryanair.com/gb/en/useful...lp-centre/fees

FlightNurse Jan 23, 2019 6:48 pm


Originally Posted by highpeaklad (Post 30692725)
If you mean a plus fare that includes priority, 2 cabin bags and 20kg hold luggage so your cabin bags should be included.
Just check it fits their size regulation and 10kg weight limit. If your second item is too large it will have to be gate checked at up to €40. If that’s the case you may be better off paying in advance for an extra hold bag at €25.
See: https://www.ryanair.com/gb/en/useful...lp-centre/fees

Yea, I have a backpack that I usually place under the seat in front of me, and my carry on is a roller board that I place in over head.

ft101 Jan 24, 2019 1:22 am


Originally Posted by FlightNurse (Post 30692784)
Yea, I have a backpack that I usually place under the seat in front of me, and my carry on is a roller board that I place in over head.

Do they meet the dimensions dictated by Ryanair? IME it's backpack sizes that will fail the underseat bag requirements, even if they will fit under the seat. Rollerboards do fail as well, but years of Ryanair stories mean most people have cottoned on and measured them before heading to the airport.

rcspeirs Jan 24, 2019 1:40 am

Read this - read it in detail. You need to comply with it - to the letter.
https://www.ryanair.com/gb/en/useful...bin-bag-policy
Ryanair roller bag size limit is smaller than many other airlines. Do not assume that "this is what I do with other airlines" has any relevance to Ryanair.
If you do not hold an EU passport, also read up about their document check process which you must complete before attempting to drop bags,

Agneisse Jan 24, 2019 3:06 am

In my experience Ryanair does not police soft backpacks/bags that strictly (but YMMV), however their agents are really good at spotting bags even only a few cm beyond the dimensions. Read up carefully about the detailed policies (posted on their website) and do not simply rely on second-hand/summarized information. As long as one follows the rules carefully, they provide a reasonable service.

The_Bouncer Jan 24, 2019 2:28 pm

I have my first FR sector in about 10 years coming up next month, SKG-ATH. I have paid about €20 for the fare and don't care where I sit for this 50-minute, "up-beer-down" flight.

My question is about luggage. I am spending a week in Greece and will be carrying a standard small roll-a-board. Is this included, or am I limited to the stardard "personal item", i.e. under-seat size?

BruceyBonus Jan 24, 2019 2:34 pm


Originally Posted by The_Bouncer (Post 30696441)
I have my first FR sector in about 10 years coming up next month, SKG-ATH. I have paid about €20 for the fare and don't care where I sit for this 50-minute, "up-beer-down" flight.

My question is about luggage. I am spending a week in Greece and will be carrying a standard small roll-a-board. Is this included, or am I limited to the stardard "personal item", i.e. under-seat size?

It depends what extras you bought.

When booking (after sometime in November 2018), you would have been presented with three options:
  • Small carry on only (no extra fee) - size 40x20x25cm
  • Priority & 2 cabin bags (aka speedy boarding) - allows one carry on of max 10kg size 55x40x20cm plus a second size 40x20x25cm - normally around €6 to €8
  • 10kg check in bag - allows one checked in bag of max 10kg size 55x40x20cm (*must* be checked in at the desk before security and *must* meet the size, even though it isn't going in the cabin) plus a carry on bag of size 40x20x25cm - normally around €8 to €10
You can also purchase a 15kg or 20kg checked in bag, in addition to any of the above options.

Measure you bag and check you booking. If your bag is too big, get a smaller one or pay the extra. Don't chance it, as Ryanair staff are good at spotting oversized bags (although not as overzealous as they used to be).

FlightNurse Jan 24, 2019 8:20 pm


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 30693748)
Do they meet the dimensions dictated by Ryanair? IME it's backpack sizes that will fail the underseat bag requirements, even if they will fit under the seat. Rollerboards do fail as well, but years of Ryanair stories mean most people have cottoned on and measured them before heading to the airport.

My backpack will fit in the sizer, but the rollerboard looks bigger, I looked at our tickets I purchased the "Plus" package which gives up 2 on board bags. Our check luggage will more then the 20kg, but we will only have check bag, I can assume that Ryanair does not care that we are allowed 1 check luggage each but will only have 1 check and if said check back in less then 40kg they will still make us pay...

The_Bouncer Jan 24, 2019 9:46 pm


Originally Posted by BruceyBonus (Post 30696468)
It depends what extras you bought.

When booking (after sometime in November 2018), you would have been presented with three options:
  • Small carry on only (no extra fee) - size 40x20x25cm
  • Priority & 2 cabin bags (aka speedy boarding) - allows one carry on of max 10kg size 55x40x20cm plus a second size 40x20x25cm - normally around €6 to €8
  • 10kg check in bag - allows one checked in bag of max 10kg size 55x40x20cm (*must* be checked in at the desk before security and *must* meet the size, even though it isn't going in the cabin) plus a carry on bag of size 40x20x25cm - normally around €8 to €10
You can also purchase a 15kg or 20kg checked in bag, in addition to any of the above options.

Measure you bag and check you booking. If your bag is too big, get a smaller one or pay the extra. Don't chance it, as Ryanair staff are good at spotting oversized bags (although not as overzealous as they used to be).

Thanks for this. I just had a look and I have the "Priority and 2 cabin bags" option, which will be more than enough.

ft101 Jan 25, 2019 1:06 am


Originally Posted by FlightNurse (Post 30697589)
My backpack will fit in the sizer, but the rollerboard looks bigger, I looked at our tickets I purchased the "Plus" package which gives up 2 on board bags. Our check luggage will more then the 20kg, but we will only have check bag, I can assume that Ryanair does not care that we are allowed 1 check luggage each but will only have 1 check and if said check back in less then 40kg they will still make us pay...

Remember there are two sizers and measure both bags to be sure.

Pooling hold baggage as you describe is OK, but make sure no individual item is > 32kg.

FlightNurse Jan 25, 2019 9:47 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 30698236)
Remember there are two sizers and measure both bags to be sure.

Pooling hold baggage as you describe is OK, but make sure no individual item is > 32kg.

Got it, thanks.

BruceyBonus Jan 25, 2019 11:54 am


Originally Posted by ft101 (Post 30698236)
Pooling hold baggage as you describe is OK, but make sure no individual item is > 32kg.

Just to add that pooling is only permitted when both passengers are on the same booking.

FlightNurse Jan 25, 2019 3:44 pm


Originally Posted by BruceyBonus (Post 30700196)
Just to add that pooling is only permitted when both passengers are on the same booking.

We are on the same booking. ;)

LarrySinNJ Jan 26, 2019 9:59 am

Ryanair site says carry-on limited to 40*55*20CM. I purchased an international carry-on, but the dimensions are 40*55*23CM. Will the extra 3 CM require the bag to not qualify as a carry-on, or said otherwise, will Ryanair be that strict??

BruceyBonus Jan 26, 2019 10:51 am


Originally Posted by LarrySinNJ (Post 30703352)
Ryanair site says carry-on limited to 40*55*20CM. I purchased an international carry-on, but the dimensions are 40*55*23CM. Will the extra 3 CM require the bag to not qualify as a carry-on, or said otherwise, will Ryanair be that strict??

They have a measuring sizer in which you are expected to place your item if asked. If it doesn't fit, you have to gate check the item at an additional charge. They don't ask as many people as previously, although it seems those who don't pay for any luggage option would be a good target.

I once measured the old sizer (55x40x20 only) and found it was 1cm larger in two of the dimensions and 3cm larger in the other. They've now replaced these with a new one that measures both 55x40x20 and 40x25x20. I haven't been able to measure this yet.

corporate-wage-slave Jan 26, 2019 10:51 am


Originally Posted by LarrySinNJ (Post 30703352)
Ryanair site says carry-on limited to 40*55*20CM. I purchased an international carry-on, but the dimensions are 40*55*23CM. Will the extra 3 CM require the bag to not qualify as a carry-on, or said otherwise, will Ryanair be that strict??

Generally they aren't that severe, but the risk you have is (presumably) you don't have a European passport, so you have to go to check-in even if travelling Hand Baggage Only, and an sharp eyed agent may ask you to put the bag in the sizer. In other words you may well get away with it, but if you do get pinged for baggage then it's a 50€ fee at the gate. If you want certainty you'll need a slightly smaller bag.


Originally Posted by BruceyBonus (Post 30703512)
I once measured the old sizer (55x40x20 only) and found it was 1cm larger in two of the dimensions and 3cm larger in the other. They've now replaced these with a new one that measures both 55x40x20 and 40x55x20. I haven't been able to measure this yet.

There is still about 1cm on the larger sizer, but on the smaller sizer it's quite a fair bit bigger than the advertised restriction (sizer: 42 x 20 x 30 cm, advertised as: 40 x 20 x 25cm).

cockpitvisit Jan 27, 2019 8:30 pm

If I don't have a reserved seat, does it make sense to check in online close to the 2h cutoff time, hoping to grab one of the premium seats this way?

Are there any pitfalls here, such as the app "suddenly" refusing to work shortly before the check in deadline, in order to make me check in at a counter (and pay a hefty fee)?

fartoomanyusers Jan 28, 2019 4:00 am


Originally Posted by cockpitvisit (Post 30708409)
If I don't have a reserved seat, does it make sense to check in online close to the 2h cutoff time, hoping to grab one of the premium seats this way?

Are there any pitfalls here, such as the app "suddenly" refusing to work shortly before the check in deadline, in order to make me check in at a counter (and pay a hefty fee)?

it would be highly unusual for the app to fail ... more chance of your wifi / mobile phone signal failing ... or you failing to remember !

i aim to check in 3 hours before departure to allow for problems. have only forgotten once !!

Agneisse Jan 30, 2019 3:00 am


Originally Posted by cockpitvisit (Post 30708409)
If I don't have a reserved seat, does it make sense to check in online close to the 2h cutoff time, hoping to grab one of the premium seats this way?

Are there any pitfalls here, such as the app "suddenly" refusing to work shortly before the check in deadline, in order to make me check in at a counter (and pay a hefty fee)?


The app is quite reliable, Ryanair has flights leaving at all times of the day and it doesn't selectively fail for different people at different times. Like the other poster said, I'd check in ~3h before to be safe. There are enough kettles that this nearly guarantees a non-middle seat.

Also keep in mind that if you are not a EU citizen you will need to print a paper copy of the boarding pass - and you will need to leave time for this as well.

cockpitvisit Jan 30, 2019 12:46 pm


Originally Posted by Agneisse (Post 30717874)
There are enough kettles that this nearly guarantees a non-middle seat.

Yeah, I tried it on a 1.99EUR SXF-PMI fare booked specifically to test the app.

Was quite funny to watch on the seat reservation screen in the app how Ryanair was slowly filling middle seats first :D

I checked in 2:50h before departure and got an aisle seat in the front. And after check in, the app even offered me to buy a different seat if I didn't like the one assigned - this means if you don't win the "lottery", you can stil buy a decent seat, albeit at a higher price (the app wanted 10EUR from me).

Agneisse Feb 11, 2019 11:50 am

I realize this is extremely niche...But at ATH today there was no need for a separate visa check stamp and it was all done at the gate. I had so internalized the horror stories that I repeatedly asked the poor check-in lady if she was sure, she must have thought I was an idiot.

Hope Ryanair lets us have mobile BPs soon...

YorkieFlyer Feb 16, 2019 8:00 pm

I will add a cautionary note if I may? We checked in 6 hours before departure in January and got a Seat Allocated at Gate message and a printed boarding pass with that note. we were sequence 186 and 187 to check in. I noted that Ryanair say they don't overbook....We nonetheless has a worrying few hours. Once at the gate we approached gate agent immediately and had a penciled seat number added to our bp's and we flew ok. The flight was full. Did they overbook?


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