Russian Overnight Train Options
#31


Join Date: Dec 2005
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trains...
www.seat61.com is an excellent source of info regarding train travel. The LH side toolbar has "Russia" listed as one of the sources. It is excellent.
No one in their right mind takes a train to "save" money. Usually, airfare is cheaper. We take trains for an unforgettable experience. Such experiences cost both time and money - kinda like making/buying/drinking a nice wine versus some cheap "plonk".
I got my tix through waytorussia.com, and one of the firms that sell tix. Now to wait for the trip from Vladivostok to Moscow ;-)
No one in their right mind takes a train to "save" money. Usually, airfare is cheaper. We take trains for an unforgettable experience. Such experiences cost both time and money - kinda like making/buying/drinking a nice wine versus some cheap "plonk".
I got my tix through waytorussia.com, and one of the firms that sell tix. Now to wait for the trip from Vladivostok to Moscow ;-)
#32




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So lots of choices and little consistency. Personally I think travelling on an overnight sleeper in 2nd or 1st class, drinking "chai" and making new friends is a more authentic experience and I would go for the tried and true Red Arrow. You can get a lower bunk in their M/F coupe car for RUR 2100+, but that would be a specific request that should be preferably booked in advance.
So lots of choices and little consistency. Personally I think travelling on an overnight sleeper in 2nd or 1st class, drinking "chai" and making new friends is a more authentic experience and I would go for the tried and true Red Arrow. You can get a lower bunk in their M/F coupe car for RUR 2100+, but that would be a specific request that should be preferably booked in advance.
#33
Join Date: Jan 2005
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Not sure if this is relevant to you, but I just learned that the AMEX PLAT desk will book many Russian rail tickets. Not sure how big the markup is. I'm looking into the Grand Express train though, which unfortunately AMEX doesn't sell. Has anyone taken that? If so, how did you buy the tickets? Thanks.
Otherwise, like so many things in Russia, you'll have to go through an extra layer of bureaucracy, and in this case, it's the travel agent.
#34


Join Date: Jul 2005
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Thanks very much for the response. We took our Russia trip in July and ended up booking our train ticket two days before through our hotel (the Sheraton). We took one of the standard overnight trains, and it was very comfortable.
#35
Join Date: Dec 2001
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Fellow Russian train buffs, your ship (or train?) has come in:
Transsiberian (The Movie)
Trailers on the Apple Website and lots of other info on the official site
Cinematic qualities aside, this will definitely give you a pretty good impression of what Russian train travel is like.
Transsiberian (The Movie)
Trailers on the Apple Website and lots of other info on the official site
Cinematic qualities aside, this will definitely give you a pretty good impression of what Russian train travel is like.
#36


Join Date: Apr 2008
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Great info, guys. I will be traveling solo to Moscow next Oct. (if all goes as planned. Long story)
Have looked into the train, yes- for the experience. My dad did the trans-sib back in the 80's, and Mos-SPB about 10 years ago. Loved it.
Have looked into the train, yes- for the experience. My dad did the trans-sib back in the 80's, and Mos-SPB about 10 years ago. Loved it.
#37


Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: AMS
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Fellow Russian train buffs, your ship (or train?) has come in:
Transsiberian (The Movie)
Trailers on the Apple Website and lots of other info on the official site
Cinematic qualities aside, this will definitely give you a pretty good impression of what Russian train travel is like.
Transsiberian (The Movie)
Trailers on the Apple Website and lots of other info on the official site
Cinematic qualities aside, this will definitely give you a pretty good impression of what Russian train travel is like.
#40


Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Portugal
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Posts: 2,399
Train tix
As luck would have it I smashed my right kneecap and left outer ankle while walking down the street in Calcutta. After surgery in Calcutta I decided to cancel the Vladivostok-Moskow trip (as well as Beijing/Harbin). Plus I got a serious infection and will be finally be released from a hospital here in the UAE this Saturday.
The sources mentioned (WayToRussia ans Seat61) have always been my main sources of info. WTR has provided quick invitations/confirmations on the 2 occasions I have used them. OTOH, The Russian Cousulate staff here are surely and a bit slack in terms of providing info for visa applications (and espcially prices) - trying to refer me to a "selected travel agent" to get the visa for me. So, I have on 2 occasions had my Russia Visas "created" in Ottawa, Canada where my son did the personal delivery/pick-up for me. They are pleasent, polite, super friendly, and work as fast as their regulations allowed. Last year I got a visa in 5 days by paying extra. This year it took 15 days exactly and got a nice hologrammed visa. This year there is no fast-track and no extra fee payment available. PLUS, the application form is different so make sure you download the latest version if you are doing so.
I still hear that train whistle. Perhaps next year..
The sources mentioned (WayToRussia ans Seat61) have always been my main sources of info. WTR has provided quick invitations/confirmations on the 2 occasions I have used them. OTOH, The Russian Cousulate staff here are surely and a bit slack in terms of providing info for visa applications (and espcially prices) - trying to refer me to a "selected travel agent" to get the visa for me. So, I have on 2 occasions had my Russia Visas "created" in Ottawa, Canada where my son did the personal delivery/pick-up for me. They are pleasent, polite, super friendly, and work as fast as their regulations allowed. Last year I got a visa in 5 days by paying extra. This year it took 15 days exactly and got a nice hologrammed visa. This year there is no fast-track and no extra fee payment available. PLUS, the application form is different so make sure you download the latest version if you are doing so.
I still hear that train whistle. Perhaps next year..



